The BIG DreamMaker topic

r3m0t · Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2004 10:38 pm Post subject: The BIG DreamMaker topic

Demand (apparently) was high after the novadreamer was discontinued. Now somebody has worked with the Lucidity Institute to create a new novadreamer.

The novadreamer detected REM and flashed lights. You would have conditioned yourself to recognise those lights as a signal that you were dreaming. Therefore, you would notice the lights and get lucid!

OK, to get to the part which most people find important:

DreamMaker: $200 each for first 100, then $349

DreamMaker Pro: $500 each for first 100, then $1000

EWLD is included as well as documentation for the DreamMaker.

Apparently the DreamMaker can move you to an Alpha state and then turn on the REM detection. The old novadreamer essentially detected the actual eye movement. The dreammaker also measures facial tension and uses both of these factors to detece REM.

Also, it can play a tape when it detects REM. This might be a useful reminder of what you want to do, or it can help you compare dream time to real time, or it can be used like self-hypnosis (but probably to less effect).

The site isn't very clear about why the Pro version is so much better. It has a Light and Sound machine, whatever that is.

I found it through the bottom ads.

[mod]direct link removed, please don't link to product vendors[/mod]

Sureal · Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2005 7:22 pm Post subject:

Yeah, I saw this too. I probably won't but one, simply because I don't wanna spend all that money on one...

I wish it had gone into more detail about the pro version though. It costs more than double the other one, but it doesn't seem to do anything different (the usual one makes light and sound as well, right?).

Technodreamer · Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2005 7:38 pm Post subject:

R3m0t, please use this link:

[Q edit: edited link out -- please don't link to the ads like that]

The link is better because it helps ld4all smile

I wouldn't buy one. That is far too expensive! It is faster, easier and cheaper just to do LD without such a device.

WhiteWolf · Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2005 12:51 am Post subject:

omg 1000 dollars! *does an RC* I rather just learn my dreamsigns hehe

Nic · Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2005 1:08 am Post subject:

milod789 · Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2005 1:57 am Post subject:

Still ridiculously priced. I say we should boycott them to force a lower price.

BenDrummin58 · Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2005 2:05 am Post subject:

I would really really want one of these...but jesus christ!! 1000 dollars just to spice your dreams up! I'm desperate sometimes...but not even close to being that desperate.

WhiteWolf · Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2005 2:14 am Post subject:

for that much money...I could build me a pretty nice dual CPU Motherboard, 400mhz 2 gig ram, geforce 6600 GT, two 200gig RAIDed harddrives. and still have roughly 100 bucks to spare.
yeesh id have the best computer within a 50 mile radius

BenDrummin58 · Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2005 2:15 am Post subject:

Tell that to the Lucidity Inst. smile

milod789 · Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2005 2:27 am Post subject:

WhiteWolf · Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2005 2:35 am Post subject:

R3TRO · Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2005 2:44 am Post subject:

lol niiiice white wolf!

Actually that may work smile

As long as you dont die by electricution first.

Sureal · Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2005 1:05 pm Post subject:

Yeah, that would be an unfortunate side ffect...

milod789 · Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2005 9:53 pm Post subject:

WhiteWolf · Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2005 9:55 pm Post subject:

see another cheaper alternitive. and safer then mine! lol.
Im only afraid that if i use somthing like that i would become dependent on it. And only LD IF I use that overspannen

so id rather like I said learn Dreamsigns, or learn WILD better..

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