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Sunwolf
Culture dreamer
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 Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 7:40 am Post subject: Serpent power |
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| I am a Red Magnet Serpent |
Aquatico:
Red Magnetic Serpent, Serpent Power, that is some powerful stuff.
Kundalini and Caduceus. Serpent energy is about survival and instinct.
I am Red Self-existing Dragon. So in a way, we are kin.
Dec. 19, 2012 will be Red Overtone Serpent, Kin 105, btw.
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mystic
Dream Templar
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Sureal
Wait, where am I?
Age: 24
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Location: England, wot! |
| Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 7:58 pm Post subject: |
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I know what's going to happen!
England will host the Olympics  .
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Pedro
Embrace This Moment
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| Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 8:34 pm Post subject: |
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| Maybe that would bring around the end of days...
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Dreamer
Yes Indeedy
Age: 25
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Location: My body lives in England, but my spirit roams the wilds |
| Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 4:20 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, who'd have thought the Mayans could have predicted something so small as the olympics.
But seriously, I don't see why just because the Mayans predicted something it gives it any more credibility than if I say that I predict the worlds gonna end in 2050.
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mystic
Dream Templar
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| Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2005 12:03 pm Post subject: |
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| But seriously, I don't see why just because the Mayans predicted something it gives it any more credibility than if I say that I predict the worlds gonna end in 2050. |
1. Although they could be seen as a primitive race sacrificing their children, their priests had developped a very complex cosmological system. Scientists are only beginning to grasp its accuracy and understand its possible implications. Their system of cyclical calendars is even said to be more precise than our Gregorian system. Although veiled with mythology, they discovered the precession of the earth axis, the movements of other planets, and even the movement of the sun's path throughout the galaxy.
2. Based upon this system, they made long-term predictions. Thus they discovered that the Long Count would end in 2012. As seen within their magical context, this date was interpreted as being the date of a major transformation (they didn't predict the world was going to be destroyed; only that the world as we know it would end and a new era would begin).
3. Most of Mayan cosmology and rituals had a correlation with the predicted 2012 events. This alone stresses how much the Mayans believed in this date and their whole cosmology.
4. As seen from computer models, there will a rare alignment on the winter solstice of 2012 in which the earth-sun path exactly aligns with the galactic plane (this only happens once in roughly 13000 years).
So whether or not you believe this prophecy, they did predict a rare alignment somewhere in a still vague future. The glasses through which you see this alignment fully depends on your own view. Mayans wore the glasses of some sort of mystical transformation. Scientists are wearing the glasses of facts=truth vs mythology=illusions. All in all I think the effects of 2012 will also highly depend on which glasses you're wearing. If there will be a greener consciousness throughout the globe afterwards, Mayans would say "see! we told you so", while scientists or others will say "it was just a logical evolution, the result of a series of shifting perspectives going on mainly since the Industrial Evolution."
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Redifin
One Strange Dreamer
Age: 23
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| Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2005 12:36 pm Post subject: |
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Ok. It is said the world is going to end in 2006(bible code) 2012 (bible code and maya calender) "At the end of this century" (a group of demons in a woman's body)
Anyways I don't know which ones right. I really don't care. All I know is: I want to have kids, and become old.
My thoughts on the mayas, have you noticed that in the textbooks it says they just totally disapeared? Sounds strange. I think that's were the alien theory came into play. 
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mystic
Dream Templar
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| Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2005 5:25 pm Post subject: |
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Redifin: again, you seem to believe the Mayans predicted the end of this world in the sense of "the destruction of this world". If you say this to a modern Mayan priest, they'll get very angry  The only thing they were talking about was an end of this world in the sense of a transformation. No one has to die because of that.
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| My thoughts on the mayas, have you noticed that in the textbooks it says they just totally disapeared? Sounds strange. I think that's were the alien theory came into play. |
Personally, I don't think the aliens caused their disappearance (note, they didn't disappear completely, as their descendants are still alive and are still practicing many of the old Mayan rituals (not the bloody ones though)). It has probably to do with extreme drought due to El Nino activity and the related climate changes. At least that's what scientists are currently thinking.
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Redifin
One Strange Dreamer
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| Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2005 6:09 pm Post subject: |
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Scientist aren't always right Really at all. They were wrong on fossils. Evolution, and the creation. If you want proof I'll post it.
Even though to mostly everyone on this site, truth isn't truth.
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mystic
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| Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2005 8:48 pm Post subject: |
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I didn't say scientists had the answers. I said this is their current hypothesis. They have some scientific proof to back it up. Where's your proof of alien influences?
About evolution, we've had our load of evolution vs creationism discussions.. Just search around in the Cloud.
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Lillepott
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| The "end of a cycle" thing is the most correct one in my view. In The Da Vinci code (yes i know most of that book is bs)i believe it said that in 2012 a cycle would end and that a new millenium of the aquarius would start (aquarius represent knowledge, truth) and that the millenium that ended was devoted mainly to religion...
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SignalRed
Wandering Drunkard
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| Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 9:02 pm Post subject: |
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| My personal belief, if anything would happen, is an asteroid impact. But people could still survive. I always liked the expansion of the human consciousness as well. Everything is cyclic, even time.
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Sushupti
Lucid Initiate
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| Lillepott wrote: |
| The "end of a cycle" thing is the most correct one in my view. In The Da Vinci code (yes i know most of that book is bs)i believe it said that in 2012 a cycle would end and that a new millenium of the aquarius would start (aquarius represent knowledge, truth) and that the millenium that ended was devoted mainly to religion... |
The age of aquarius starts when 0 point of aries in the tropical zodiac enters sidereal aquarius... still a couple hundred years to go.
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Kava
Dream Deity
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| I really dont know what to think about Dreamspell, and Dec 21, 2012. I would love to believe it, that the phsyical reality will climax into a huge dream, or LD which is what I think might happen. Who knows we might just wake up and, realize that there was a worldwide shared dream, but it seems like the older you get the less you believe in magic. If I were in my twentys, I would really be fired up about this, but Im 32 now, and Ill be in my 40s, when the calander comes to an end. I feel like I dont have permision to beleive in such "nonsence". I am a LDer, so I guess I do believe in the magic. Im confused... I dont know what to think. Like the "X Files"... "I want to believe" How do I know it isnt a cult? It is however backed up on a anchent dreaming culture. So I dont think it is a cult... Ill just keep up LDing, and see what happens.
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Alex C
Dreamer of Art
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| Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 8:07 pm Post subject: |
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My advice is to use your own self to discover this. Inside your Lucid Dreams ask for advice and information about 2012. Post the answers in our lovely forum. Have a nice day!
Alex C :-P
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