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shatterspike1 Threadkiller

Age: 20 Posts: 730 Joined: 06 Nov 2005 Last Visit: 27 May 2013 Location: Sky Island |
Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2005 5:03 am Post subject: Hypnosis: The stepping Stone to lucid dreams |
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My dad gave me a book about Self-Hypnosis, and after reading part of it, i got excited. I had tried hypnosis before, and it worked well. It says that hypnosis is the path to the subconcious, a machine that defines what your fears and superstitions are (like stage fright, if you only had the concouis mind then you wouldn't have stage fright). It also covers reprgramming your computer(subconcious), so i figure:
Why not use Hypnosis as a stepping stone to Lucid dreaming? It would provide a much surer way of getting a lucid dream. I seriously recomend going to the library and checking out the book "Self Hypnosis and other mind expanding techniques by Charles Tebbetts". This i will try myself, tommorow (or when i feel like it).
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shatterspike1 Threadkiller

Age: 20 Posts: 730 Joined: 06 Nov 2005 Last Visit: 27 May 2013 Location: Sky Island |
Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 11:06 pm Post subject: |
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spike,
this is something i am currently undergoing. I am awaiting funds so that I can go to a hypnotist and learn self-hypnosis techniques. I believe that self-hypnosis is the counterpart to lucid dreaming, where:
Lucid dreaming = concious control of subconcious
and hypnosis/neurolinguistic programming = subconcious control of conciousness
I am currently planning to get myself in a cycle where using hypnosis i can go "hey subconcious, you should lucid dream more often." and then when lucid, I can go 'hey conciousness, you should hynpnotise yourself more often.'
reality. hack hack hack!
let me know how it goes, and i'll respond when I finally get around to a hypnotist. |
actually, learning self hypnosis is good. that way you don't have to go to a hypnotist all the time and pay the fee.
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shatterspike1 Threadkiller

Age: 20 Posts: 730 Joined: 06 Nov 2005 Last Visit: 27 May 2013 Location: Sky Island |
Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 3:32 am Post subject: |
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Instead of dishing out the money, just go to this site.
If you are easily offended, i wouldn't recomendend it. most of it is perverted, but try the virtual hypnotisit. it can do weird things! and the virtual hypnotisit is not perverted, unlike the rest of the site.
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Jack05 New member

Posts: 9 Joined: 05 Oct 2005 Last Visit: 29 Dec 2005 Location: Germany |
Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 10:27 am Post subject: |
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Hi shatterspike1!
Have you already tried this program? Does it work well?
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Zataod Lucid Initiate

Posts: 76 Joined: 17 Feb 2005 Last Visit: 05 Apr 2007
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Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 2:12 pm Post subject: |
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Another suggestion is getting LaBerge's newest book, which comes with a CD. There are 2 inductions on the CD. They aren't necessarily called hypnosis sessions, but they are. The scripts follow the classical hypnosis model of progressive relaxation, visualization, and suggestions.
There has been been some scientific study showing that hypnosis can greatly increase the likelihood of lucid dreams.
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Waeled Tai-dreamer

Age: 25 Posts: 5 Joined: 30 Nov 2005 Last Visit: 04 Apr 2006 Location: Sweden |
Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 8:39 pm Post subject: |
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When you say "self-hypnosis" I immediately think about suggestions and the like. And, well, the first time I decided to try that out I was aiming at entering the hypnogogic state.
I did not know much about it, but it sure sounded interesting, so I thought I'd try it out.
While I was falling asleep I continuously said to myself, in Swedish of course: "As my body falls asleep, my mind stays awake."
The results surprised me... I had never before experienced sleep paralysis, and neither had I read much about it. You can pretty much say that I didn't know more than the words. So when I got to experience it (I concluded afterwards, after reading up that it was a period of sleep paralysis) I got more than frightened by it. But still, a lovely experience, being new and all, of course.
Anyway, I have not attended any real self-hypnosis classes and believe it is not much harder to do but simply getting relaxed and then let your mind work its magic. Being used to the sensation of physical relaxation and being able to conjure it with thoughts alone is a good skill. Just remember how it was to be relaxed, and let the feeling spread throughout your body. Then start suggesting, affirming or whatever you fancy. That's what I do, and I have to say I get results aplenty from it.
Ah well, that's all for now.
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shatterspike1 Threadkiller

Age: 20 Posts: 730 Joined: 06 Nov 2005 Last Visit: 27 May 2013 Location: Sky Island |
Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 4:10 am Post subject: |
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Hi shatterspike1!
Have you already tried this program? Does it work well? |
The program works very well...with it, i got frozen! i mean, it was weird, i couldn't move, but i manged to get my friend to unfrezee(we were watching it at my house).
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spacetime New member

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Zataod Lucid Initiate

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Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2005 7:53 pm Post subject: |
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| I've heard good things about Virtual Hypnotist, but for some reason have yet to download and try it out. Definitely on my todo list.
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StEvE21 Dream Deity

Age: 24 Posts: 536 Joined: 01 Sep 2005 Last Visit: 27 Oct 2010 Location: Canada |
Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2005 8:00 pm Post subject: |
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| It doesnt look safe (for my computer) to me
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Zataod Lucid Initiate

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Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2005 9:43 pm Post subject: |
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| StEvE, in what way? You don't have the right hardware to run it? Or is there something else that looks like an issue that concerns you?
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whispa no surprises please

Age: 32 Posts: 1349 Joined: 08 Nov 2003 Last Visit: 05 Jun 2008 Location: the moon |
Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2005 11:38 pm Post subject: Re: Hypnosis: The stepping Stone to lucid dreams |
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| It also covers reprgramming your computer(subconcious) |
I'm really interested in that but a little bit skepticle as i don't know exactly what's involved. Would binural beats come into it or is it more down to the person trying to control their thoughts?
My local library doesn't have that book but i'll see what else they have on hypnosis next time i'm there
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shatterspike1 Threadkiller

Age: 20 Posts: 730 Joined: 06 Nov 2005 Last Visit: 27 May 2013 Location: Sky Island |
Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2005 12:02 am Post subject: Re: Hypnosis: The stepping Stone to lucid dreams |
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| whispa wrote: |
| shatterspike1 wrote: |
| It also covers reprgramming your computer(subconcious) |
I'm really interested in that but a little bit skepticle as i don't know exactly what's involved. Would binural beats come into it or is it more down to the person trying to control their thoughts?
My local library doesn't have that book but i'll see what else they have on hypnosis next time i'm there |
Um...yes, it does have binuaral beats, but you can turn them off. I uninstalled it off my computer because i didn't have the space.
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StEvE21 Dream Deity

Age: 24 Posts: 536 Joined: 01 Sep 2005 Last Visit: 27 Oct 2010 Location: Canada |
Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2005 3:16 am Post subject: |
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My computer is a pentium 2 (very old) and there are no specifications for what the minimum requirements are for this program. Also, the fact that it says "100% spyware free!" everywhere looks a little suspicious.
Did you download it, Zatoad?
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Bruno a smiling haze

Posts: 5950 Joined: 03 Dec 2005 Last Visit: 15 Feb 2013 Location: fleeting. |
Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2005 3:29 am Post subject: |
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| Hm. Shoudn't the hypnotic trance be something similar to WILD-gone-wrong trance? You know, when you're (my case, thus not exactly WILD) meditating and enter a kind of a blank dream, or a semi-concious state?
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