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The BIG WILD topic - Part XV
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Fwump38
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2006 4:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ArthiswiftKvar, I have the same problem as you. I wake up after 6 hours, and as I try to fall asleep nothing comes to me. I try to relax more and I dont even count or do any mind things. My watch beeps every hour, and I know its been about 45 mins of nothing so i give up. I thought you fall into REM sleep right away. Maybe im doing something wrong though.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2006 11:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

D'ForceMaster wrote:
Well...what if after you are sufficiently relaxed you stop seeing that and instead, a hazy like black.
Is this an early stage of HI?
I would say yes as you were seeing something other than just closed eyelids.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 12:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

D'ForceMaster wrote:
I have a question
You know how when your in a car on a sunny day and you close your eyes and see all the flashes of light behind your eyelids as you pass trees.

Well...what if after you are sufficiently relaxed you stop seeing that and instead, a hazy like black.
Is this an early stage of HI?

(I really don't think I have to, but I will point out that I'm not the one driving when this happens. )


No these are Phosphenes

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 12:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've tried WILD a few times, but it doesn't seem like the best technique for me because it takes me a loooong time to fall asleep on a normal, everyday basis. Usually at least an hour, I'm guessing, because I pretty much have the worst sense of time ever. Anyway, to really fall asleep I have to lie there for however long it takes me to run out of things to wander around in my brain, and if I try WILD it just takes me longer to fall asleep, not a good thing when I have to get up at six. Anyone have any suggestions as to how i could get this to work a little better?

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 3:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

chambered_nautilus, WILD is said to work better if you can fall quickly asleep. But if you really want to continue, you should practice relaxation. It will help you to fall asleep faster. I don't see another method.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 10:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I tried to do a WILD last night, but it didn't work. I ended up waking up at 3 AM (like I planned), but never falling asleep agian...I just layed there for about an hour and a half trying to do a WILD, then another hour and a helf trying just to fall asleep (no WILD). I looked kinda like this : eek2 Finally my alram beeped, and I had to get up for school. sadblauw

From this, I learned: I'll only try to pull a WILD when I'm practically sleep deprived....I guess friday nights will work.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 9:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ysim wrote:
I tried to do a WILD last night, but it didn't work. I ended up waking up at 3 AM (like I planned), but never falling asleep agian...I just layed there for about an hour and a half trying to do a WILD, then another hour and a helf trying just to fall asleep (no WILD). I looked kinda like this : eek2 Finally my alram beeped, and I had to get up for school. sadblauw

From this, I learned: I'll only try to pull a WILD when I'm practically sleep deprived....I guess friday nights will work.


Probably you didnt relaxed (enough). I also have that when i dont relax enough. I lie there for half an hour without even one HI. I usually switch to MILD then. When i wake up i realise i didnt relax enough grin. Sleepyniss can do strange things with you

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 9:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought I was pretty relaxed, but maybe it still wasn't enough. I'm planing to try another one tomorrow night. Wish me luck

*Ysim hopes this time will go better

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 3:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was wondering about the dream recall of any other people when you try this technique. Because, for me, whenever I try this technique, I never have any dreams that I can remember. While, normally, I remember, very vividly, 2-3 dreams a night, when I sleep normally.

Does anyone else expeirence this?

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 4:28 pm    Post subject: did i have a wild or a AP or something related Reply with quote

one afternoon i took a nap after reading most of this site about WILD. I would say that WILD is my fav technique i dunno how to do the others. So i lay down still, and attempt to WILD. I fall asleep and have a couple of quick dreams in my room and stuff. Then when the dream was over the vibrations attacked my body and my mind woke up again, but this time i was just counting down and said to my head in 10 seconds i will dream. I counted from 10 to 1. that count down was very different then the otheres. everytime i said a number my view would turn black and come back again and it felt like i can see out of my closed eyes. At number 1 i just got up and looked at my laptop screen and it was a desert picture in it. i quickly rushed to enter the screen and go to the desert. All of a sudden my dad barges in the room and grabes me by my throat and doesnt say nothing. i call him stupid and tell him to let go of me. but he doesnt say a word. he hand is on my throat but i dont even feel it. then i woke up very angry that my dad stopped my completion of my dream. LOL. what does that mean???

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 12:49 pm    Post subject: Aural Focusing Technique? Reply with quote

The wikipedia article (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucid_dreaming#Aural_Focusing_technique) mentions something called "Aural Focusing Technique". This seems to be a form of WILD, but is there anyone here who reports it to work better than standard WILD?

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 6:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

WILD is so hard, I can stay focused on being conscious for about 5 minutes or so, than I start to think random things, kinda like dreaming but not really asleep, and I completly forget what I'm trying to do, them sometime later I remember that I'm trying to get a LD and I focus again on doing WILD. I've tried some things this night. I imagined objects than I switched it's colors, I tried to remember my day, I tryed counting numbers, wich by the way was more efficient when I associated a number to a person's face. The closest I get to a LD is when I feel my "sleep waves". I sleep without tv or anything, so when I'm starting to fall asleep I feel a strange sensation going through my body, that's when I know I'll be sleeping soon, and I try to remain focused during this but I just can't.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 10:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I still havn't WILDed successfully, but one thing I've made note to remind myself of is that you're just going to sleep like you would normally, but you need to remember to keep your mind active when you start drifing off. It's helped so far, hopefully I'll get through a WILD soon! ^^

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 1:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have not had success with WILD, but the main reason that is keeping my motivated, is the fact that, once mastered, WILD is probably the most effective technique due to its ability to induce lucids at will. So however long it takes, I know its worth it!

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 4:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yay! I think I had my first lucid last night!
Ok, I am pretty sure this was a LD. I was doing the WILD technique and I set an alarm to wake me up at 2:00 It went off and I started to do WILD. I felt sufficiently relaxed so I just started counting. I got to the point where I felt what I think were the vibrations and I was seeing random images. Not just pictures but like a little image that moved, like short random movie clips. I told myself to just observe them. I don't know how long it was, but all of a sudden I got this idea that to enter the dream "You focus on the light coming from the sides of your eyes" (from your perepheral vision). I did this and there was a really strong vibration or something. It just felt really weird. Then the images sorta stopped and it got really dark, and then I found myself in a dream. I was in English and my teacher was asking some kid questions. I left this and soon found myself wondering through my school. I then realized I was dreaming and I knew it was a lucid dream. I then, as I had previously planned, went to find my subconcious to ensure future lucid dreams. I went to God who gave my a blue soccerball with a note written in colorful ink for one of my friends to improve his grades. Then I tried to stop time, and get super powers, but nothing worked. In fact, my dream wasn't even very vivid.

I was very happy when I woke. I mean, who wouldnt be? If God gave you a soccerball to ensure you would have more LD's... anyways just thought I would share.

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