Hypnagogic Imagery??

Rodrigo · Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 9:48 pm Post subject: Hypnagogic Imagery??

Hey

I was wondering: How do I know what I'm seeing is HI and not just crazy imagination? Cause when I'm almost sleeping, I do get some crazy imagination, but I THINK it, I don't SEE it. People say in WILD you kinda "walk" into the dream by the HI, but I've never had it the way they describe. Not even the two times I was lucid.

Sonia · Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 10:02 pm Post subject:

When I first saw this topic title, I thought it meant HI as in hello. hand voor hoofd

Maybe you should change it to "Hypnagogic Imagery??"

I had the same exact question at one point - but I never got around to asking it here. Sometimes, as I wait for HI, instead of experiencing it vividly, I witnessed some things that seemed to be in between having thoughts and HI, but I didn't know whether it was HI or not, neither did I really think it was. I'm guessing this is what you mean. The only time when I experience vivid HI is when I'm tired and going to sleep. That bothers me when I practice WILD.

Sureal · Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 10:05 pm Post subject:

Quite simply, with HI you do physically see it. It's pretty much a hallucination (although your eyes are closed). The HI could be just a single object floating in the darkness, or it could be an entire scene (it's almost always the latter for me).

Sonia · Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 10:11 pm Post subject:

Sureal · Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 10:18 pm Post subject:

Rodrigo · Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 10:18 pm Post subject:

Datameister · Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 1:02 am Post subject:

I'm still wondering if what I frequently experience is truly HI. Most nights, I experience some visual and auditory hallucinations, but these are never as vivid as most people describe HI to be. I know throughout the experience that it's not real (although sometimes I'll involuntarily react to part of it in real life). Perhaps this is the opening stage of HI, but I go unconscious before it develops into true HI...?

Sonia · Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 1:08 am Post subject:

If your experiencing visual and auditory hallucinations, that is most likely HI, just not vivid. I'm guessing there doesn't have to be a strict definition of what HI is. For some people, it is very vivid, for others, it's not. For me, it changes. Every once in a while I experience very vivid HI, but not very often. Normally it's less vivid, but it still might be HI.

I hope this helps in any way.

Or if I'm on to something. plotting

Datameister · Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 4:39 am Post subject:

Thanks. That's what others have told me, too. I guess my HI just isn't terribly vivid...or all the vivid stuff happens after I drop out of consciousness.

MatrixManNe0 · Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 6:14 am Post subject:

Does the vividness of the HI affect the vividness of the following LD? I've had varying levels of HI, and I didn't notice any varying vivdness or prolonging of LD's... Then again, I'm not as experienced as many of you are.

nightshade · Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 9:41 pm Post subject: Re: Hypnagogic Imagery??

Rodrigo · Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 12:20 am Post subject:

Last night I had a different experience with HI. I got the "crazy imagination" I said, except that another voice other than my own mind's spoke as well. But it was still all inside my head. I didn't "hear" it.

Datameister · Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 4:43 am Post subject:

I agree that vividness of HI isn't necessarily correlated to the vividness of LDs. I've had very vivid LDs but no vivid HI whatsoever.

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