| Author |
Message |
Ledgem
Creative Illusion
Age: 22
Posts: 41
Joined: 28 Dec 2005
Last Visit: 06 Aug 2006
Location: canada |
 Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 5:06 am Post subject: ive been questioning myself lately... |
 |
|
though i doubt anyone remembers, i had a few topics and posts about not being able to LD no matter what, but ive been questioning that lately.
sometimes i have a dream where i know im dreaming the whole time but i can't do anything about it. i continue knowing im dreaming and finaly for a split second feel like i may be able to control something i wake up instantly. if its a weekend (which it usualy is) i try to get back asleep, and i manage to reenter the dream sometimes but i get that lack of control again.
would this be considered a LD? i don't because i see it as being completely in control to do whatever i want but im sure that's not true.
|
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
electron
The night wolf
Posts: 20
Joined: 03 Apr 2006
Last Visit: 18 Jun 2006
|
| Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 6:32 am Post subject: |
|
|
| if you know you're dreaming, then it's a lucid dream; at least in my dictionary.
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
nightshade
Lucid Initiate
Age: 25
Posts: 81
Joined: 17 Apr 2005
Last Visit: 11 Jun 2008
Location: Germany |
| Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 7:17 am Post subject: Re: ive been questioning myself lately... |
|
|
| Ledgem wrote: |
| but i can't do anything about it. |
What do you mean by that? Are you trying to change the dream or something? If you know you are dreaming it is an LD and that means you can do what you want but still it can be hard to change something in the dream if that's what you're trying to do.
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Ledgem
Creative Illusion
Age: 22
Posts: 41
Joined: 28 Dec 2005
Last Visit: 06 Aug 2006
Location: canada |
| Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 11:36 am Post subject: Re: ive been questioning myself lately... |
|
|
| nightshade wrote: |
| Ledgem wrote: |
| but i can't do anything about it. |
What do you mean by that? Are you trying to change the dream or something? If you know you are dreaming it is an LD and that means you can do what you want but still it can be hard to change something in the dream if that's what you're trying to do. |
what i mean is during most dreams lately ive known i was dreaming but thats it, i just continue the dream knowing it's a dream but not doing anything about it. it's so hard to explain... it's like knowing something but not understanding it. do you get it?
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
svavarg
Lucid Initiate
Age: 23
Posts: 89
Joined: 28 Sep 2005
Last Visit: 13 May 2008
Location: Iceland |
| Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 1:31 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| If you are talking about lack of dream control in your lucid dreams I think you don't convince yourself enough that what you are experiencing is only your imagination and not something that really exists. Your dreams are limited only by your imagination. it is not enough to be able to say to yourself in your dreams that you are dreaming but you really have to put meaning into it and belive that you can do anything you want for what you are experiencing is only a mental image.
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Childhood
Somniologist
Age: 24
Posts: 136
Joined: 18 Dec 2005
Last Visit: 28 Nov 2011
Location: Norway |
| Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 1:47 pm Post subject: Re: ive been questioning myself lately... |
|
|
| Ledgem wrote: |
| nightshade wrote: |
| Ledgem wrote: |
| but i can't do anything about it. |
What do you mean by that? Are you trying to change the dream or something? If you know you are dreaming it is an LD and that means you can do what you want but still it can be hard to change something in the dream if that's what you're trying to do. |
what i mean is during most dreams lately ive known i was dreaming but thats it, i just continue the dream knowing it's a dream but not doing anything about it. it's so hard to explain... it's like knowing something but not understanding it. do you get it? |
I know what you mean. Iv`e had similar experiences. This is called extremely low lucidity, don`t give up now, I think maybe you`ll have a real LD soon. What I do in these cases is to think that next time something like that happens, I will do a RL and become lucid, and also be calm and not waking yourself up. To be calm I always immediatly start flying or doing something that I want to do in a LD, and it works.
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
nightshade
Lucid Initiate
Age: 25
Posts: 81
Joined: 17 Apr 2005
Last Visit: 11 Jun 2008
Location: Germany |
| Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 3:40 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Ah now I understand. Try doing what Childhood said. I think he meant "do a RC and become lucid".
Think of one thing you want to do as soon a you get lucid before going to sleep maybe that will help too.
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Basilus West
Cat of Ulthar
Posts: 5272
Joined: 15 Jun 2004
Last Visit: 01 May 2012
Location: At the foot of the Pyrenees |
| Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 8:27 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| I agree with Childhood. It's a very low lucidity level dream. As he says, you should perform RC's when you just become lucid, or try to enhance your lucidity by shouting "Lucid!" or "More lucidity!" or something like that.
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Lark
Me
Age: 26
Posts: 187
Joined: 31 Mar 2006
Last Visit: 30 Aug 2006
Location: Santa Cruz, Ca |
| Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 8:47 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Ledgem, I think I know what you mean. In my opinion, there are infinite levels of awareness between your conscious and unconscious mind. Obviously, some part of you always know it's a dream (even if it's 100% your unconcious mind). So I think that you have some awareness, but not enough to take full control of the situation. Like a power struggle between your conscious and unconscious mind. So pretty much, I agree with Childhood and RC. Also, meditation helps you to train your mind, so instead of going with the flow of your unconscious thoughts you can learn to notice them and take control.
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Datameister
needs more sleep!
Posts: 262
Joined: 04 Mar 2006
Last Visit: 26 Aug 2010
Location: USA |
| Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 4:31 am Post subject: |
|
|
| As you're falling alseep, remind yourself that a dream is a construct of your brain. Believe that you will take control in your LDs. Most importantly, set goals. Write down simple, explicit goals for your next LD and focus on those while you fall asleep.
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
|
