The BIG WILD topic - Part XV

[Somnio Forte]

Yeah, you should get into the habit of doing RC's...helps a lot.

[Baheglobob]

Hi there!
I just thought i would stop by and drop my two cents.

Since the last time we met i have been thinking about LD probably every day (and night . I have tried hard to become lucid trough some WILD'ing with mixed sucess. :/

Most of the time, i havent comed further then when the numb'ness kicks in and when the tickeling feeling starts. I have always got to excited and everything has failed.
My dream recalling isn't that good either, i have remembered more dreams now then ever but is just 1 dream a night.

Anyway, at the beggining of this week we started a little LAN-party, I stayed up for as long as i could (about 3 days with like, 5hours sleep totally) At the end, i tried to do a WILD. I was almost certain of that I would fall asleep. But i didn't!
It was awesome! The numbness came, the tingle, the heartbeats and then! I coudn't feel WHERE my body was! It was like i was everything and nothing, i was gone. Such a cool feeling! But i got so excited that i went away .

Anyhow, i will keep trying. Take care!
// Isak

[Somnio Forte]

Helps if you relax a bit before trying to WILD...definitely seems to be where you're having trouble, as you're getting way too excited every time.

[Baheglobob]

Hm, maybe. But how should i accomplish that? Focus on my breathing even more? Cause, I don't really have a hard time getting relaxed, i just lay down and stop everything. Take a couple of deep breaths and voilá; 5-10 minutes later i feel the numbness kick in. But anyway, it's worth a try or two. Thanks.

[Alextanium]

I'm pretty much the same. I've never been one to fall asleep quickly unless exhausted. When I reach the tingly sensation and SP stage, my mind 'wakes up' when I realise whats going on and the scientist in me begins catalogueing the feelings and sensations. Shortly after, everything falls apart and I'm lying there staring at the back of my eye lids waiting for something to happen, slowly feeling very uncomfortable.

I have noticed though, that my body temperature seems to rise when teetering on the border of sleep and consciousness. I usually have to get rid of some clothing after a failed WILD because I feel like I'm running a fever.

[The Toy Master]

I've been trying WILD ever since... well... ever since I've discovered LDs. The problem is, as many times as I've attempted WILD, I have never succeeded. I usually take an hour (maybe even two or three) repeating "I am going to dream now" in my mind, breathing slowly, imagining myself walking down stairs, and counting with breaths. I've gotten my farthest a few nights ago when my left arm felt higher than my entire body. Soon, the feeling proceeded to my left leg. After about thirty minutes it was the same and I got confused and soon, stopped trying.

Is there an additional step I have to take at this moment? What should I do?

[StEvE21]

If you only felt it on the left side of your body, maybe it was caused by your sleeping position.
It sounds like you are thinking too much, wondering when it will happen. This will keep anyone awake. Try not to think or concentrate on the counting too much.

[Slow Rolling Dawn]

It is a rather simple question, I guess, but one that I have not really seen answered anywhere.

Does it matter in what position you try to go to sleep, and on that same note should you aim for a comfortable position to relax or a less comfortable one to help you focus?

Also, just saw this!

[The Toy Master]

[MatrixManNe0]

You, Dawn, need to relax. To dream, you must sleep first.

[Basilus West]

Hi MeZergy!
You should perhaps try a WILD method which requires no mental effort: that is not counting or repeating a sentence but focusing on physical sensations. If you can't fall sleep for hours, it's because you focus too much.

Slow Rolling Dawn, people who practise WILD generally sleep on their back. But the most important is to have a comfortable position.

[Dreman]

Should my heart start to beat fast when I WILD. I tried it yesterday and my breathing got hard and heart started to beat fast and it sounded SO LOUD! Well I got scared and stopped. Didn't try it again. I did MILD but that didn't work. Any help?

I also here a werid gurgling sound, like when some one has a lot of saliva and snores. I thought it was me so I closed my mouth but I still heard it. I also here a VERY faint high pitched sound. HI?

[MatrixManNe0]

Probably. If stuff starts getting loud, I think it's nothing to worry about. In fact, it usually means that I'm almost in a dream when I hear loud noises.

Now that gurgling sound sounds a little strange, but remember if anything, it's in your mind. Literally.

[Basilus West]

Heart beating fast has been said to happen by many people. I think you can find many accounts by searching heart or beating on this forum, or even perhaps in this thread. Just don't care. It slows down after a while.

The gurgling sound was perhaps auditory HH. Very faint high pitched sound was probably just tinnitus. I hear this too when I relax.

[saeghwin]

Wow, I have not been here in so long. It's funny how even when I don't even think about LD'ing, I find myself having them sometimes. I think I am going to try to WILD again though, I never achieved it last time.

What has everyone decided is the best way to fall into the dream? I was imagining falling, climbing up staircases, and focusing on breathing and heartbeats last time with no success. I feel like I should do something which involves the thought of physical activity (while relaxing my actual body) like running up or down a hill or anything which would provide a blank slate for my dream.