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Badcandlejack
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2003 12:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think the internet, or chatrooms, or forums are the problem so much as excessive use of them. Many people (myself included) aren't particularly good at managing time, and with the wealth of diversions available on the net it's a procrastinator's dream.

I should be writing, and ordinarily my willpower would be enough to keep me slaving away at the laptop and not getting up to switch the TV on or make a drink or whatever, but accessing forums requires almost no effort, I can have them open in another window, so it's extremely easy to check if there're any new messages, and while I'm doing that I may as well check some other forums, and then click on a link while I'm here, and refresh that first forum... etc. It's my own weakness, the ease of use of the net just allows it to be played out to the full.

I think there's also an expectancy about surfing the net, a kind of delayed satisfaction. You may not be enjoying yourself at this moment, but if you click this next link it may be something worthwhile, if you refresh the forum page once more someone may have posted something interesting, if you don't leave the chatroom just yet someone may make a comment worth reading. The time ends up being spent not in actual entertainment but in waiting for it.

Plus: The internet causes impotence and hair-loss.

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Sleepherder
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2003 12:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, that's that's why I'm impotent lol: I've been on this forum a lot lately. I spent hours yesterday reading through posts. I'm awful at managing my time as well. I need someone to kick me and tell me to get off lol.

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sage
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2003 12:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Forums are for people who can type. neutral

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Sleepherder
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2003 12:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

what do you mean by that sage?

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2003 12:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Exactly what I said. Nothing more, nothing less. wink

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Sleepherder
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2003 12:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok. I was reading something more into it. Perhaps that I can't type well, since it came after my post eh

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2003 1:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Forums are for people who can type, regardless of their degree of proficiency in said skill. neutral

How's that? smile

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Sleepherder
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2003 1:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

lol: I'm sorry. I didn't mean to make it a big issue sage. I just tend to see things(in this case read things) the wrong way. I'm paranoid i guess. bier

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2003 10:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had just typed in a post for this section and it was brilliant and then I hit the wrong key and lost it (the post) . Right give me a second while I count upto 10.................
Right I'm ready again. neutral
I'm going to try and remember what I typed now bearing in mind it's now nearly midnight-just half an hour to go.
wiske I was near the public library this morning and I just had to go in and peek at what was going on in this forum, I just couldn't resist it. So it must be terribly tempting to keep peeking when you are only a click away!
Last night I must have set a record, I logged off ready to leave and just noticed one of the top 3 items and just had to take a peek. Then I had to log on again just to make a comment. Is that a record do you think?
Then I made about 4 funny, ironic comments about the evils of our addiction. Just imagine your own (that will save me some time)....................................................................... I bet they were funnier than my originals! Now I'll imagine your comments.... 8D ................... 8D 8D ....... lachgroen
That was less effort and a lot funnier than my last post(fate must have made me hit the key)
Then I said ... But seriously this particular forum is the best one to get addicted to. We are all disembodied minds freed from some things

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moogle
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2003 11:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

moogle wrote:

Then I said .. But seriously this particular forum is the best one to get addicted to. We are all disembodied minds freed from some things

(I had to redial and logon)
that might stop us from being our true selves in normal life. We are all different and have diverse opinions, but underneath we all seem to be on a similar wavelength. Maybe due to the fact that we all have an interest
in lucid dreaming. wiske
If we occasionally spend a bit too much time in the forum at least we are learning from each other while sharing views, laughs and the odd spark when opposite opinions meet occasionally. Also if we are lucky like someone who likes animae (prob wrong spelling) and has wilds we can make up for any lost time in our dreams.
eek2 Tell me if I sound like I'm writing essays for O level English. Dont worry if you don't know what that is . Even the english members will probably be wondering what's that?

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Ashvura
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2003 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

moogle wrote:
Also if we are lucky like someone who likes animae (prob wrong spelling) and has WILDs we can make up for any lost time in our dreams.


Well, I don't know. I like anime and have occasional random, involuntary WILDs. ^^ But what does that have to do with making up for lost time? @_@;

As for the internet and forums.. like I said, your time is your own. Don't blame something else if you can't manage your own time. ^^ I, for one, know that I'm completely to blame for my utter lack of time management skills, not the internet. If the internet weren't here I'd probably still be doing something different than what I'm supposed to do (like playing games, reading, drawing, writing.. anything that doesn't involve homework!)

And yes, this seems to be a great forum even though I've only been here a short while. Everyone's so friendly, even to newbies! ^_^ I think it's because the topics are very spiritual, and most people that are interested in them are openminded by nature. :3 I keep coming back here, heh. So far it's already helped me a great deal ^^

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2003 8:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The problem, mostly, is the diversion, not what the diversion specifically is...I mean, like Ashvura said, if it wasn't the internet, it'd be something else, and this is a lot more entertaining and informative.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2003 8:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yup...as for internet addiction, it has very few side effects that can damage your health. Damaging your home-life may be an entirely different thing. As long as you don't spend that much time online that you grow a beard between meals or leave your pets or kids without the attention they deserve then there is no real harm done. Just stay away from any gambling, online shopping and pr0nography.

Use it as a learning tool. Not a diversion.

Besides...there are online help groups for internet addiction. How ironic!

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moogle
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2003 11:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Atheist wrote:
Why does everyone treat forums and chatrooms like they were a cancer that needs to be removed from their lives? Everywhere I go (online), I usually encounter someone who's pretending they need to 'defeat' the internet's evil grasp of their lives in order to be happy. Why?

I say keep doing what you like. If you find yourself sacrificing school grades and family relations because of it, then you must be absolutely terrible at managing time. Keep going to school, get your work done, then check out the latest posts on your favorite forum. As soon as you tell yourself there's a problem, there suddenly becomes one.

I'm new to the internet and tried to think of a title that would draw members in just to talk about This forum and the internet in general..
Ashvura I hope you didn't read anything into my statement that wasn't there--I meant for you to know that I had spotted you around the forum a few times and remembered a little of what I had read.
Personally I have felt myself "growing" while using this forum. I normally feel like I can't speak when there are more than 3 or so people around. Even then in a small group I find it quite difficult. I've noticed a little of this "creeping out" and I'm getting a little more confidence in normal life.

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Ashvura
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 2003 10:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

moogle wrote:
Ashvura I hope you didn't read anything into my statement that wasn't there--I meant for you to know that I had spotted you around the forum a few times and remembered a little of what I had read.


Oooh! Now I get it. Wow! Someone already remembers me eek2 Heh ^^


Anyway.. I find myself wanting to turn on the computer and check these forums as soon as I wake up, and maybe even post whatever happened that night.. XD

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