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†Archrin†
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 24, 2003 2:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Usually when I have FA's I end up getting angry and forcing myself awake. Of course they're usually about me being late somewhere, or going to the wrong place, or something equally frustrating, so I realise it's a dream but rather than go lucid, I just wake myself up to be sure i'm dreaming.

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AstareGod
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 24, 2003 10:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Someone on this topic already mentioned doing a RC when you "wake up", whether it's a FA or a real one, but here's an idea. In your dream journal (if you have one), put a page in the front that has in big letters "Perform a reality check". This way, when you pick up your journal to start writing, you will see this page over and over.

Now, when you have a FA, you will most likely pick up that dream journal, and when you open it up, there's the page! Depending on which RC works for you, you could read the page again to see if the words changed, or you could perform an RC of your choice.

The whole point of the paper is to embed it into your subconscious. Of course, if the page is missing from the dream journal in your dream, you should know something's up...

I'm gonna go ahead and put a page into my dream journal to see if this works... FA are a rarity for me, but any opportunity for an LD is a good one!

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 24, 2003 10:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That might be a good idea..

But keep in mind that not all FAs are "normal" like your actual awakenings. You might wake up in the middle of the street, or in a spaceship.. With no dream journal to be found!

I think it would be better to remember to do RCs every single time you awake, no matter what circumstances, and you should not depend on a self-induced dreamsign like that page in your DJ you mentioned.

Feel free to correct me if you think I am wrong.. wink

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 25, 2003 4:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

oh yeah, I guess that makes sense now. But the only type of FA I experience are the ones when I reach for my dream journal, so I guess it could be a solution to me, but not for everyone else...

Yeah, sticking to RCs whenever you wake up sounds like a universal solution. But hey, if you constantly have a FA and you reach for your dream journal, the "page" may just be the best method out there!

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2003 2:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think I've ever had a false awakening. Or at least I don't ever remember having one. Is that wierd? It sounds like a pretty common phenominon to have them.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2003 3:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ihatejacknjills wrote:
I don't think I've ever had a false awakening. Or at least I don't ever remember having one. Is that wierd?


A false awakening is just a dream that begins with you waking up as you do any other morning. The dream usually then continues with you getting ready for work (or school), and perhaps embarking on some adventure to get there. Most of my FAs involve me waking up late for work, and strugling with trivial tasks like putting on a tie, locking the door, getting in my car, and so on.

You've never had a dream where you wake up in your bed, before finally waking up for real?

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 08, 2003 7:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a FA lastnight after a Ld, but luckily i woke up not too long after the FA so i still remembered my LD. I had the FA after i jumped in water, and i turned around and saw a giant Shark behind me notify . Then the Shark bit me(which hurt like a mother ***) and i woke up, this is when the FA happened. I woke up in a movie theater with friends, so i thought i just fell asleep at the movies smile, and then went along with the dream. I HATE FA's!!!


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 15, 2003 10:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a FA yesterday where I was outside in a rain storm, It was cold as hell and the wind was blowing really hard, I started slipping back and fourth from my FA to my dream that I was having before my FA and then back to myself in bed, I tried to use this as a DS and LD but it didnt work because it was so damn cold in my room and I woke up....!!! just pissed me off alot

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 15, 2003 10:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think I've sometimes had multiple FA's whatsthat I end up wondering whether the first dream actually was lucid. It get's very confusing.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 16, 2003 12:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't understand why everyone hate FA's so much. Would you rather wake up in RL? I think of an FA as a "safety net" when LDing; If you get overexcited and wake up, you just might stay in the dream, in an FA, instead of waking up in RL. Every FA you have is a chance to prolong your LD.

whispa wrote:
I think I've sometimes had multiple FA's I end up wondering whether the first dream actually was lucid. It get's very confusing.

Having one or many FA's after an LD does not change the fact that you knew you were dreaming at the moment. You WERE lucid, but you lost lucidity due to "waking up".

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 16, 2003 6:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't understnad why everyone hates FA's either. I think they are pretty cool. I notice that I get them a lot, when before I go to bed, I am nervous about oversleeping, so then I wake up in my dream thinking I'm on time, then I wake up again thinking I'm late, then again, in a panic, and eventually I wake up for real, and realize that I still have a half hour or so to get some more sleep!

The one thing I do notice though is that for some reason, my mind feels like I didn't get a good night's sleep, because I was "waking up" all night, when really I wasn't.

I've never thought to do a RC when I wake up. It's a great idea!

~qriosity~

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meisekiyume
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 30, 2003 4:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry about this late post. I just wanted to comment on something I read a while back.

ClintB24 wrote:
I used to have the exact same problem until I got into the habit of doing a RC every single time I "wake up". In doing this, you know for sure whether you're asleep or awake. In fact, some of the most vivid, stable LD's I've had have come from my "wake up check". grin


This is my very same experience. Doing a reality check whenever you think you wake up is a very good idea. I have had my very most real and vivid lucid dreams in this way.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2003 3:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I told this story in another thread, but it really belongs here..

The other morning I woke up and started writing in my dream journal. I found it very easy to recall the last few events of my dreams cos they were really interesting and amusing and still fresh in my mind.

Then, moments later, I woke up again and realised I had dreamed writing in my dream journal. Then I got up and pretty much wrote the same things word for word that I had written in my dream. But this time I included the details of the FA.

The funny thing is, in my dream of writing in my DJ, not only did I write accurately the details of my dreams, but I even got the date right! And I'm bad at remembering dates at the best of times.
That's what made the FA so frustratingly real.

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Lucidity_Master
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2003 4:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is my most annoying FA. It was annoying for 2 reasons number one was the content and number 2 was because a very experienced Lucid dreamer like me should have hit upon the dreamsigns.


I am having a dream about something. Suddenly I wake up. I think it is real but is actually an FA. I proceed going on with my usual routine of getting ready for school and utterly miss the strange numbers on my clock. I proceed to go through the entire school day missing dreamsigns such as funkitated lights, inability to read text and even several cars going by with the word "This is a dream" on them. This actually happened another two times until I actually woke up.

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Khasti
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 03, 2004 2:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hardly ever have any FA's but I remember a few...All of mine are annoying because I've never had a lucid dream yet. I can't remember any of the RC's or when I should do them.

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