The BIG WILD Topic - Part XII

zardos · Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2004 3:56 pm Post subject: The BIG WILD Topic - Part XII

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After a time when i have trying WILD my hands ore legs and some times my neck start to "move" Like a reflex, yest one time and then nothing happend fore a while and then it hapend again in some auther musels sadblauw

Do every one have this ore what is it ?

Presence of Light · Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2004 7:12 pm Post subject:

i noticed that if i try imagining a man walking up a flight of stairs, after about 15 seconds i can't do it anymore, but if I try REALLY REALLY hard, to force him to painstakingly move his little feet up a step or two, I feel really weird

Like I feel "him" walking inside of me, kind of like, my astral body is going loose, like.... a rollercoastery feeling in the stomach...

it was like when i was WILDing (successfully) one morning and I made myself fly up and down in the "dream world" (half dream, half awake, Iw as trying to enter it fully) and it made me feel that way on the inside.

I don't know, but I'm guessing if I can get much better at focusing, and do that longer without being unable to continue (it's draining mentally and physically) that maybe I can WILD.

it feels really odd.

milod789 · Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2004 10:29 pm Post subject:

Here is a weird experience I had a few days ago while trying WILD with napping:

I was never very good with napping but, I still practice it when I get a chance. Anyway, I was successful with it and had 2 Lucid dreams and was starting on a third. Right away I could tell that the dream was not stable so, I started to rub my hands together like crazy and tried to stabilize things. It did not work and I woke into SP. The strange thing was when I woke into SP I was on my back with my hands over my head with my palms together ( as though I was rubbing them ). Of course this could have just been a coincidence. In all my LD’s I have never had anything like this happen before. Did I move my real hands from a dream?

1337-Dreamer · Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2004 12:23 pm Post subject:

Maybe that your brain could not sense the difference between dream and reality.. and when youre brain woke up you started rubbing them in RL smile

just a suggestion.

milod789 · Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 1:05 am Post subject:

I had a similar thought. It might be possible that after my last brief LD I may have briefly awakened and just did not remember it. Then went down into SP. It happened very fast and we all know how those border states can get sometimes.

Anyway, no WILD’s last night or any LD’s for that matter. I just could not relax or get comfortable no mater what I did. Tonight will be better.

1337-Dreamer · Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2004 9:14 am Post subject:

I have just woke up from the scariest moment of my life... Holy.. im still shaking..

I went to sleep 2.30am. I tried to WILD, but I fell asleep. Then i woke up 9.30, and i thought this was a good oppertunity (spelling?!) to try WILD. I relaxed, but i didnt do any excercises. I just imagined a book, and i tried to feel the books textures.. then i opened it and started to read.. All the text in it, was made by my own concioussness.. so it was my way to keep my concioussness up wink5

Suddenly, i saw patterns right on my eyelids, and I knew it was the beginning, because I have read it is. Then my eyelids went crazy, and i was scared to death though i knew it was just my brain making this up..
My eyelids started to vibrate heavy! And i didnt thought it was that heavy and realistic.. my heart went BOOM BOOM in the speed of about 230..and i could actually hear my heart. I did something stupid.. i started to count and i got too counciouss.. it stopped after about 2 minutes.
I have tried to WILD 4 days now.. so im very happy to have a progress so early

What shall i do when i got thos vibrations? shall i just focuse on them and stay calm, and try to sleep? Also.. am i faaaaar away from my first LD?

I shall on vacation tomorrow.. so im glad if i can get some answers before that wiske

Thank you

JaRoD · Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2004 11:41 am Post subject:

I have had my heart racing away like that once, it was really freaky overspannen

and I woke up completely from it. I think it comes from being too conscious and then you get excited knowing that you are getting SP, it's hard keeping calm when that happens. I don't really know what you can do about it since it's only happened once to me.

You could try breathing calmly and focus on something else like HI or imagining something and keep your focus on that.

1337-Dreamer · Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2004 12:03 pm Post subject:

Yea i will try that next time.... i have red many different experiences while they try to WILD. And the pro LDs say it is nothing to fear.... and it doesnt happends in RL . Maybe i just got exited.. and it wasnt beating thats fast at all.. i dont know.. but when i woke up.. it was beating faster than normal, but not over 120 i think smile

oatmeal · Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2004 8:15 am Post subject:

got a question: if you never have experienced a real WILD (SP/HI etc.), will WILD be simulated correctly nevertheless if you were to WILD in a dream/LD? so does your mind know how WILD is experienced even if you never conciously experienced WILD?

Basilus West · Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 12:52 pm Post subject:

I recognize you, oatmeal ! You are the guy who WILDs in MILD and DILDs in WILD and dreams in RL.

However, if you dream of a WILD, without having experience WILD before, I suppose it will only be your imagination, just like if you dream you're eaten by a tiger. Then, when a tiger eats you, you will know if you were right or not...

dest · Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 9:42 am Post subject:

Hmm, it seems that i can't WILD. I just lie here and can wait ages but nothing happens, then some part of my body just starts to hurt and i have to move :-/ Maybe some of you had simmilar problems before too? How did u solve it ? lachgroen

Basilus West · Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 4:49 pm Post subject:

O yes, please tell me too ! I have the same problem !

whispa · Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 10:30 pm Post subject:

When I first go to bed I take ages trying to get comfortable. The few times I nearly had a WILD was later in the night when I was much more sleepy and relaxed.

milod789 · Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 10:53 pm Post subject:

Basilus West and dest

You could try the WBTB method. It is easier to fall asleep and WILD works much more quickly.

If you want to do WILD at bed time you could use a progressive relaxation technique, meditation, or self hypnosis to help you get relaxed and enter a trance. Then WILD becomes much easier from there.

JaRoD · Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2004 3:31 pm Post subject:

I seem to have the same pain thing too, and it's always in my legs. But luckily it doesn't happen that often. I think it only happens a few times every month but when it does happen I hate it grrr

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