None believer causin trouble

garebear · Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2002 8:26 pm Post subject: None believer causin trouble

Hey i ust thought id bring up this story of sumin that happened to me today. I was in one of my classes talkin to this guy i know and sumhow i brought up Lucid Dreams and he asked wut they were so i told him and he starts makin this huge argument with me about them he was lik "bla bla bla i ur asleep ur unconscience and you cant be conscience and unconscience at the same time bla bla bla bla theres no way to come in contact wit ur subconscience bla bla bla bla its impossible stop smokin pot b4 you go to bed you got problems, why are you makin up these stupid lies you can't control dreams bla bla bla" Anyway no matter wut i tried t do to convince this guy he just went on and on callin me a pot head and sayin i was crazy and stuff. So i just laughed at him and walked away knowing wut he was missing out on. Any1 got any advice for me on how i can make him unerstand? i mean even if he was bein an a**hole no1 should miss out on LDs (plus i wanna hear him say "you were right i was wrong" or sum form of that)

Johan · Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2002 8:51 pm Post subject:

Give him LaBerge's scientificle article on his research (including his scientifical prove of LDing) you can find here: http://www.lucid-dreaming.com/slbbs/

Look, this is one of the strongest and most convincing scientific proofs I have ever seen. Person dreams, is in REM and can still communicate to outside world with eye-movements. Brilliant!

So much better than all the parapsychological research I know.

However, I'm afraid the guy is just not open to anything, even not scientific proof. He doesn't believe it simply because it sounds strange, only the experience itself could change his mind.

Jack · Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2002 8:52 pm Post subject:

Some people has got big egos and are not open to new ideas.There is no way to convince them and i think there is no need.By wanting him to admit he was wrong you are feeding your ego,making yourself close to his. sadblauw

Different things matters for different people and i dont think anyone should be convincing anyone to anything.
Its not to you personally Trigpoe,but the world goes through so many troubles because people trying to convince others that their way is better than their way.Religions base on this,politics base on this.All the murders and killings base on this belief.
Everyones different,let them go their own way
Just stand your ground.be happy thats not you whos "missing out",be happy for your knowledge...i think thats the only way:)
take care:).

dmttrinitro · Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2002 9:06 pm Post subject: Re: None believer causin trouble

alex · Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2002 1:10 am Post subject:

Okay, well my first thought was to direct him to this site, but not if he's going to be an idiot. It's his loss and he's probably too closed minded to have the brain capacity to have LDs, let alone believe that they exist.

garebear · Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2002 2:12 am Post subject:

well said guys, especially u jack. I think i will just leave him alone. And i was only joking about wanting him to admit he was wrong i really dont care on things like that i just thought itd be funny. But yeah i just wont bring it up around him again and if he brings it up ill just mention if he wants to find out for himself he should search on the web.

Hubbs · Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2002 2:53 am Post subject:

F*ck It! Let him find out the hard way, when its too late

Monitor199a · Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2002 2:48 pm Post subject:

He's a WITCH! Burrrrrrrrrrrrrn himmmmmmmmmmmmm!

Eat his brrrrrrraaaaaaaaaaaaaaiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinnnnns! grrr

Hubbs · Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2002 10:45 pm Post subject:

Drown him and see if he SINKS, if he floats he's a Witch!!!!!!!!Kill him!!!!

SilentC · Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2002 4:12 pm Post subject:

Wow! Calm down guys. eek2

Have you thought about talking to someone both you/he mutually know and telling them about it?

Two people backing it up is always a convincing argument! And you get to introduce another LD'er...

Hubbs · Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2002 6:31 pm Post subject:

Another Infidel, Burn the Witch!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :sneak: :sneaksneak: sly

:evil:

LostBoy · Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2002 8:21 pm Post subject:

I think Jack's got a good thing going there. Deffinitely want to avoid wasting everyone's time trying to convince him. Though it might be a good idea to give him LaBerge's write up as BrainHacker suggested... just to attempt to make the breakthrough... I wouldn't do much more than that. If he keeps pushing his negative opinion just make a facade of giving in. "Fine you're right. I'm tired of talking about it."

Affect the people you can... introduce it to those who are open to it. Otherwise.... let it be.

Shaper · Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2002 2:34 am Post subject:

From your argument it doesn't sound like this guy is closed minded. Juding from the "You cant be concouse when your unconouse." part, it sounds like he just doesn't know what he's talking about. I would do what the others have said and give him some hard evidence like this article. If he still doesn't beleive, let him not believe. His loss, right?

ceavou · Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2002 3:00 am Post subject:

Well said Jack

Jeff · Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2002 6:01 pm Post subject:

Some ppl are believers in none believing and others are believers in believing...lol!
Well do what Brainhacker said...maybe that will not even help...u can always say he is a believer because he is to lazy to do research what the truth is here.

lachgroen

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