The BIG vitamin B topic

[servo-15]

Hello... I tried taking 3 vitamin B complex tablets the other night. These were bought from Boots and have 100% the RDA for the various B vitamins. For example 2mg B6, 1μg B12 etc. I remember from the old forum Jeff and Davion (I think) recommending he use of B complexes, as opposed to the individual B vitamins, since they work together in combination so that they get abbsorbed into the body better and their combined effects are enhanced.
Anyway, I can definitely report improved vividity of my dreams, good recall and lucidity. I have not had much lucidity for the last couple of years (I had not tried to either). I have used B-complexes in the past for LD purposes and had good results, but I had forgotten what dosage I was taking.
A possible side effect of the high dosage is that I had a bit of a headache the next day. I'm not sure if this is due to the vitamins though, I had 8 hours of sleep that night and it was the first night I had more than 5 hours in almost a week

[Bruno]

Servo, why take three times the recommended dosage? Isn't one pill more than enough?

[servo-15]

My reasoning for taking three times the recommended dosage was firstly that I generally need a large amount of a substance to have a noticeable effect, but most importantly because when you initially start taking a supplement, a large initial dose is much more effective in delivering the desired effects.

[servo-15]

I have to update my earlier observations...
I was searching through the forums for some posts I had made a long, long time ago about my usage of B vitamins.. I found this post: http://www.ld4all.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=46&highlight=
where I saw that I was taking a supplement with 100mg(!!) of the various B-vits compared to 1-2mg. Yes, that was almost a 70x stronger dosage!
After finding that out, I realize that my headache was nothing to do with the B-vits. More importantly it also shows that either the good results I experienced last week were merely a placebo effect combined with my renewed interest in LD's , or that a releatively low dosage is all thats needed.
I tried taking another 3 pills last night without any lucidity or dream recall. Once again, this could have been due to only getting 5 hours sleep
I will get some 100mg B complex supplements, and update you guys on my findings. Goodnight, time for my 5 hours...

[Bruno]

Are you aware that once you have had the RDA, any overdosage will be ignored by your system? Your body will just throw the excess away, that's how most vitamins work...

The RDA is all you need in a day. If you have more than that, you'll be just wasting your money, because it won't be absorbed and won't have any extra effects. oO

[servo-15]

Not neccersarily so, Bruno. Doses of vitamins far in excess of the RDA are not always rejected by the body. Infact "Megadoses" (several times the RDA) can cause vitamin poisoning, known as hypervitaminosis. This poisoning is possible with 1000x RDA of vitamin B6 and similarly high doses of B12.
The RDA is the amount of a nutrient recommended for healthy functioning of the body. It is not the the maximum amount of that can be absorbed by the body. Additionally, many nutritionalists disagree on the RDA for some vitamins, and suggest amounts several times the RDA, for example, see:

http://www.the-natural-path.com/vitamin-requirement.html

However you are correct in saying that some of the excess of certain vitamins are rejected by the body. Water soluble vitamins such most the B vitamins and vitamin C are expelled in urine when in excess.
I hope this is useful background info.

[nightshade]

B6 seems to have no effect on my dreams or dream recall. (not even placebo effect )
I tried 120mg B6 a few times right before going to sleep and one time in the morning doing WBTB.
Am I doing something wrong?

[bradu]

well I'm giving it a shot...I took some sort of daily multivitamin we have that I found in the bathroom...it's a set of 4 pills, two of which contain B6. Looks like a total of 12mg, so it's not much. But I ate it with a banana, so I'm ready for some really vivid lucid dreams.

[bradu]

report based on my first experience with the B6. Had my worst dream recall of the last 2 months. Only remembered bits and pieces, no lucidity. BUT, there was one strange thing that may have been related...

Generally I'll wake up around 5-6am for the first time, and get up and write in my dream journal. If I wake up at 2 or 3 or anytime earlier, I usually don't have any dream recall. But last night I woke up at 1am, after just a couple hours sleep, and had a vivid emotionally disturbing dream. That's a good thing, as it related to my dream goal in a way.

Since I took the vitamins about 9 and went to bed around 11, I wonder if they were in full effect and caused me to dream earlier than I normally would? Maybe I should try taking them right before bed. I found it very strange that I didn't continue having intense or vivid dreams after that.

[Am I Dreaming?]

Vitamin B6 did ABSOLUTELY NOTHING for me.