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DaturaSpectrum
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| supernova, i read about this guy who was lding and says he lived 100 years in 2 hours. i dont know how he did it but i do believe that it can be done, i just wish i knew how...
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The Golden King of Avalon
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| Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2004 8:53 pm Post subject: |
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Thats guy took drugs. So I don't believe in that one. But I do believe in live many years in a LD.
Luck:
1. The chance happening of fortunate or adverse events; fortune.
2. Good fortune or prosperity; success.
3. One's personal fate or lot.
Thats luck TimeLess_Soul.
Thank you.
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TZer000
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| Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2004 11:13 pm Post subject: |
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IMHO ('in my humble opinion' for those who dont know) you guys are making this waaaay too complicated.
1.in your dreams you are god. end of story(christ, i haven't even become lucid yet and i know this).
2.in your dreams you are only bound by your perception of reality, yes?
3.and in your dreams your perception of reality is, in fact, the same as the limits to your imagination, right.
if we can all agree on these three things then the quesion of whether or not manipulation of time in a lucid dream is possible should have an obvious answer....DO YOU THIINK YOU CAN OR DO YOU NOT?!?
ofcourse this is all MHO  
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jamie
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| Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2004 10:43 pm Post subject: timee distorion |
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| i reead about that man in a book once called psychic voyages - good book - i believ it was robert monroe but i may be wrong, oh well youll probly be able to find some info jsut look on the net, id liek to read other posts frm people who have had similar experiences
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jamie
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| Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2004 10:45 pm Post subject: |
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| also, he was i believe hee was astral projecting, not LD, if that makes any difference
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TimeLess
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| Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2004 11:31 am Post subject: |
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Luck:
1. The chance happening of fortunate or adverse events; fortune.
2. Good fortune or prosperity; success.
3. One's personal fate or lot.
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lol thanx for taht i knew what luck was i was kidding mind you the defs taht u got there pretty good  waht i mean is i dont thionk luck has a great deal to do with lucid dreaming
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| if we can all agree on these three things then the quesion of whether or not manipulation of time in a lucid dream is possible should have an obvious answer....DO YOU THIINK YOU CAN OR DO YOU NOT?!? |
in theory that makes total sence. but there is one thing that you must take into account as far as i am aware at this present state. We can caontrol what goes on inside our own mind not the forces that act outside it. Weather we think we can or cant is a very good question, but it isnt think taht you should be asking it is know. if we think we can fly we might be able to if we know we can fly then we can.
To affect dream time for us we would have to one of a few things.
1. speed up our minds so that we think faster then real time and therefor seem to stay in the dream longer. but remain inside the real times sleep cycle
2. slow down real time and there for keeping our brain at its normal speed and also staying inside the dream for a longer time but remain inside the real times sleep cycle
3. do both.
Now if we did 2 we affect everyone else as well......
so is it really all that simple?
I belive that there is no past present and future, they are all one in the same. hard to explain i will post a book taht explains it rahter well if you want. it is a hard thing to grasp but this may be one way of overcomming the factor of there and therefor staying inside ld for what seems ages.
But remember that the body goes through cycles beta gama and delta waves. or was theata in tehre some where i cant remember the fact is we cycle through these. we would ahve to hold our selves in beta for a long time as well. to avoid non rem.
Cheers
Richard
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Pedro
Embrace This Moment
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| Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2004 11:05 pm Post subject: |
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| I have been experimenting with slowing down time in my dreams. I recently had some dreams which were several years long. I had a lucid dream which i made last 4 years and i lost lucidity after a few days and the rest of the years were just me going with the flow. I had another dream which lasted 6 years in which I was lucid the whole time and able to do what I want. Through my experiements I would like to agree with Stephen LaBerge is saying that the dreams use an effect similar to movies. Time is cut and were put into a totally different imte and place but given just enough information to understand what we've missed plus to trick us into thinking we haven't missed anything. That's how I feel after these experiements.
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odd2k
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| Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2004 4:26 pm Post subject: |
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| Timeless_Soul wrote: |
| Now if we did 2 we affect everyone else as well...... |
Just for the sake of the argument, if you were to slow down the entire world while asleep, noone would be affected by it. The only thing that would change would be your relation to the outside world (how you perceive time relative to how other people perceive time). But, since you are dreaming, that doesn't matter either.
Bottom line: It's possible, although very unlikely.[/quote]
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WaNnAbE
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| Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2004 5:18 pm Post subject: |
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| It's probably very easy to make it seem like several years have gone by in a lucid dream - but impossible to actually live through all of that time. It would be sort of like living through the "edited highlights" of one year, I suppose.
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Rarosu
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| Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2004 2:37 pm Post subject: |
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Well, it seems like our brain can fool us a lot. 
This "movie effect" looks like the best answer to this question. Maybe you've woke up in the middle of the night and thought that it was morning and then found out that you actually went to sleep an hour ago or so. I've experienced that a couple of times, and I think that may be the kind of "feeling" that fools us to believe that years have gone by in a dream.
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TZer000
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| Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2004 2:58 pm Post subject: |
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the speed of thought is faster than the speed of light
i believe it is entirely possible to slow down time in you dreams.
i'll try when i get lucid and then document my findings on this web site.
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toadstool
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I don't think that speed has anything to do with it at all. Time is really measured by things moving. What I mean by this is that moving things take time. It takes time for the earth to go around the sun. It takes time for the moon to go around the earth. It takes time for you to physically walk across the room.
However, in a dream these things do not actually take time. There are no moving parts in your brain. While there are chemical reactions taking place, these things happen sooooo quickly.
Basically, I feel that there is more dream time every night than real time for every person. It is merely altering your concious perception of these things.
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Pedro
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| Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2004 8:06 pm Post subject: |
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As for "movie effects" being the best answer for it.... It IS the answer coz:
A) I know from my own experience.
B) I'm sure scientists have proved that this is how dreams achieve such "apparently" long durations. I read an article about it somewhere...I'm gonna have a look...
So far I can extend time, slow time, speed-up time, reverse time and stop time and save it so I can return to the same point. Is there anything else I haven't thought of?
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r3m0t
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| Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2004 8:11 pm Post subject: |
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Pedro you forgot to loop time!
...You decide what that means...
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TZer000
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| Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2004 1:23 am Post subject: |
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no offense to anyones belief, but i absolutely refuse to accept that it isn't possible spend months, or maybe even decades in a dream. when i get lucid i will find a frickin way or die tryin'. 
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