The BIG sleep paralysis and old hag topic

Well, old hag is not exactly like that, having SP it is well paralysis, and second presence of entity in the room, this presence is not always on your chest, and it hasn’t always visual form.
I had some expirience with it and it is real in that moment, many people had this too, it is connected with sleeping on the back.
Hint: if you think that was a ghost try feel the bed beside you if its warm that you had an hag encounter if it is noram ltemperature that you were halucinating.(this with a grain of salt it is just belief, me personaly hasn’t check this)

Yea… I’ve heard about Old Hag being connected with sleeping on your back. If you normally do that and are truly worried about Old Hag try sleeping on your back.

I’ve had the old hag both when sleeping on my back and on my stomach :grin: Guess she really likes me no matter what position I’m sleeping in :tongue:

I didnt know untill recently “It” had a name. I had a experiance about three mouths ago with old hag. I was lying on my stomack, and I woke up feeling this pressure on my back, and it was hard to breath. I was so scared I didnt want to look at what was on my back. Im looking forward to old hags next visit. What causes old hag?

that depends of the approach you like most, scientific, thay are trying to tell you feel yourself as somebody else.
If you want unofficially, well, all sort of incubi sucubi, wicca, demons, night terror, plaenty of them.
I had some SP problems with feeling of entity in the room, and that entity not human, it was very unique expirience, my brother too had exactly same about the same time. I am not sure if it was the exact night but within month or less, we were in different towns during that year.

It’s just an unfortunate (but fairly rare) side effect of SP. Like HH, or the tingly feeling, or the feeling of falling etc.

I had many experiences, some of them just plain freaky and funny. I was sleeping in my bed, face up, and then 5 minutes after I fell asleep I woke up and saw a black figure walk past my room. I knew it couldn’t be anyone because I was home alone. Another encounter was a while ago. I was snoozing on the couch and woke up with SP, to my surprise there was a little light in the room and I saw someone crawling from the ceiling fan to the wall. I was terrified. Now that I think about it, am I subconsciously afraid of Spiderman? I really enjoyed Spiderman 2 however…

I’ve had the old hag hold me down by the head and on several occasions i seem them crawling on windows and on the roof. I even see them walk by my room and even try to come in (i can see their darkness).

You make it sound very creepy… There coming to get you batosan, there allways watching, there getting closer, and closer.

you’d imagine my surprise! after experiencing it I would say “What the hell… was that spiderman?!” lol.

Well, that seems to be developed form of sleep paralysis, with hypnagogic halucinations. It reminds me of the shadowmen enigma, but it is clearly linked with the dreaming.
It is not unusual to see things after waking up, yes it could be spiderman aftermath.

Sry I didnt relize there was a forum for these questions here…but I am a begginner to lucid dreaming. I have been doing a dream journal for 2 months now even though I aklready had good dream rcall. But honestly I am truley afraid to dream becuase of old hag. I am afraid of it…can someone help me with this or maybe help me over come it? Thanks so much…Nick

Hi Beesflirtn ! :wave: Welcome to the forum !

Old Hag is a recurring question amongst beginners. You have a search engine on this forum (in the top bar) and you can search for “old” and “hag”, and find all these topics :
Old Hag Syndrome
The Old Hag
Old Hag?
The Old Hag syndrome!!
It’s better to post in an existing topic, because answers won’t be scattered through the forum. :grin:

About your question : you don’t have to be afraid of Old Hag. It’s not a dream character that you’ll often meet. Most likely, you won’t meet her at all !
In fact, Old Hag is related with a sleep disorder called Sleep Paralysis. For people experiencing such a disorder, the mind wakes up before the body, and they find themselves paralyzed during a few seconds (up to 2 or 3 minutes).
In some cases, Sleep Paralysis is accompanied with hallucinations. As sleep paralyzed people are already afraid of what happens, these hallucinations are often frightening (ET’s, demons, Old Hag, etc.)

Concerning LD, there is a confusion, because when you practise WILD (and only this induction technique), you try to volontarily reach a paralyzed state, which many LD’ers also call SP. But these hallucinations don’t appear in this state. They are only related with the SP disorder.

I hope you won’t be afraid, now ! Remember that all you can experience in LD… is just a dream ! :content:

mods : wouldn’t be a great idea to gather all the posts about Old Hag in a “BIG Old Hag topic ?”

I’ve had the “spiderman” affect during SP, but now that I think about it, it’s just the effect of someone malicious that can climb on walls and stuff (Sorta like The Fear in MGS3). It’s definitely something in my subconcious (perhaps?) because the last thing I would be scared of is spiderman! And also, I’ve never dreamed about spiderman (well, never dreamed and remembered it).

if you could, try to sleep with the light on and when you have SP try to look at the shadowfigures.
just a thought.

and one more current topic :smile:
“That old hag…”
yes Basilus West, it might be a good idea to combine all of these “old hag” topics.

welcome to the forum Beesflirtn :wave:
The old hag should never ever be feared by people attempting to lucid dream. I am stunned that so many people visit here asking these “I’m scared of old hag” questions … and I’ve never noticed threads created with “Help me, I have an old hag in my room” :lol:

Beesflirtn, I’m more afraid of bees :smile: dont worry about this “old hag” and don’t let it get in your way.

Perhaps you should combine these posts and make a sticky “SP and old hag related stuff” threat? People aren’t gonne use the search anyway and just keep asking these questions, since there will always be more new or beginning people that arrive on the forums.

Ok so last night as I was laying in bed when suddenly I could see the outline of the people from youth group and I could hear them talking. I could move and everything because I would always get up on my elbow and look around. After a while I had enouf of it so I got up and fell asleep on my couch in another room.

My question is, was this my imagination, old hag or a dream.

From your information, it seems like a hallucination, possible HH. It could also be a dream, but if you could move around and eventually get up out of bed, that’s probably not likely. Were your eyes closed? If you could move around, I would say that it most definitely was not the old hag or anything related to that or SP. Did you feel fear as this was happening?

well actaully I wasn’t afraid at all just really irritated at the hallustinations. I kind of knew I wasn’t dreaming. The only reason I got up was because I was really annoyed at them :grrr: . also the only time that i have these HH’s or whatever they are, are after youth group. also when I stood up it was 1:34 AM and I had first gone to sleep at about 10:00.