Stop trying to dream.

I said this as i lay in bed.

Not as i went to sleep, because I didnt. I ‘woke up’ as so to speak.

The whole point of lucidity (at least in my view, which is the only view i have, and therefore is relatively ultimate and correct) is to ultimately not be able to discern wake from sleep. to say that i repeated ‘i am lucid’ whilst attempting to go to sleep discerns the possibility that i will sleep uninterrupted.

To clarify, i lay down and shut my eyes, and repeated ‘i AM lucid’. since I do not sense when I am unconcious, i never fell asleep. i simply chanted i am lucid, until i was.

brilliant :cool_laugh: :content: i really like the way you have done this, it makes a lot of sense, i’ll see if it works for me. good luck in you endevoures, thanks again!

mmmm i have to disagree with that imo :wink: i think you would hold your self back if you did this, but if you mean this in a wild sense then i am totaly with you :smile: unless i am reading this all wrong lol its been a long day

No, you read this the right way, because the way you read it is the way you created it to be.
It may limit you, which is why you disagree. This is healthy.
As much as i created it this way to support me.

However, relative statements such as that are important for both of us to reiterate or adjust our stances towards LD’ing. Now that i read back at what I wrote, i believe that thought was actually an emotional thought that got caught up in an observation. To clarify, the reason why i stated to ultimately not be able to discern wake from sleep was probably a product of my wish to be lucid all the time.

If we do not discern wake from sleep, we create a probability that we will discern wake from sleep. It is more productive to simply become, rather than wish to become. To this effect, in relative terms, by stating that my ultimate goal is to not be able to tell the two apart, allows me to exist in a constant reality-check state, where my mind is constantly wondering, “this could be real, or a dream, but I can never tell…”

clever answer, u r deep, i think u r gonna have quite a lot of good ideas. :smile:

I might try this, sounds like there’s really something to it.
Good idea n00dle :smile:

i also saw “what the bleep do we know” its a very good film on metaphysics and quantum physics.

Indeed it is. Well it must be if it was responsible for allowing me to be lucid after 6 months of continuously failed attempts…

That ‘I AM’ statement doesn’t only work for LDing, it works for nearly everything. I’ve heard of this before and have tried it in other areas.

n00dle

Congratulations on finding a way that works for you.

Your method reminds me of a chapter in EWLD where labarge attended a workshop taught by a Tibetan Buddhist, Rinpoche or “Precious Jewl”.

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I just know this is going to work for me tonight, and I just know that i’ll love n00dle for helping me with this. I’ll keep you posted…

Thanks n00dle, you opened my eyes, all the nights I wish to have a LD, but now I know I’ll have one, and this will be tonight.
Thanks a lot

N00dle its been about 2 weeks of me trying to get LD’s and last night i read this topic before bed. As i was going to sleep i said to myself I am lucid and omg i cant completely remember what brought it on, but i decided to do RC’s in my dream finally. After poking my finger into my hand and breathing through a closed nose i became lucid for the 1st time. I tried so many different things and it was a long long dream, i flew, climed up walls, swam super fast in ocean, tried to materialize things, spinning to go somewhere else. It was great, so today i decided to take a nap and try again, but i couldnt remember my dream from my nap. So hopefully tonight it will work, do you have any more advice? for using this method?

when you say as you were going to sleep, do you mean you said nothuing else untill you fell alseep or you said it for a long time then stopped and jus forgot about it and went to sleep, because when i say something in my mind like that its hard to fall asleep i have to stop it then go to sleep you know? but i really like this method. I believe LD can be super easy if we make our minds think that.

You are the dream. Just stop and look around and realize that you are everything around you.Then the lucid dream really begins.

No it isn’t. There are a few threads around that deal with this movie and they all point out the HUGE holes in the science in it.
ld4all.com/forum/viewtopic.p … 76&start=0

Heres a good page that comments on why there are sp many flaws in the film:

popsci.com/popsci/science/ar … 79,00.html

I pretty much said it until i went unconscious. As i dont remember that transition, i said it as long as i possibly could. Sincei cant remember what made me remember to doa reality check, i believe i repeated in my dream, I am lucid one more tiem then realized i was in the dream. Last night i tried again and said it pretty close to when i fell asleep but couldnt even remember my dream thismorning :sad:

You know I’ve tried not trying but I’ve never tried this…The Power of Positive Thinking right? Ok I’ll give it a try…I am lucid! I am lucid! I am Lucid! I’ll let you know how it works out. :wink:

n00dle, I must admit your post was very nicely put.

I watched What the bleep do we know too, we even have a copy of it at home.

I tried this last night, only I used it for dream recall, because I’ve had a few nights of bad dream recall.
I said, “I AM able to recall dreams”, or rather, I thought it, without really using words, just, the idea and the intention. Its hard to explain. But it worked :smile: I recalled a very long dream in the morning, and parts of it are still comming back to me :smile: