That’s exactly what happens to me. When I used to be afraid of it, I would quickly sit up everytime I heard it. But yeah, the best LD’s I’ve had have come from SP. Here’s the sequence of what I do before I get one, if anyone is intrested (most of the time I’m not trying though):
Get to bed about six hours after you usually do. Every single time I’ve gotten it, I remember being on the computer working on something 'till about 6 am.
Not all but about 50% of the time I get it, I’m sleeping somewhere other than the bed. Sometimes on the couch, or in the car, maybe even on the floor.
now that I’ve read this topic I started to be scared about Lucid Dreaming and most of all sleeping on my back. I know it is just my mind making images but I am 100% I would terrified to hell if I would experience a evil-looking old woman SITTING ON MY CHEST, having evil intentions. No matter how unreal it is it’s still scary…
I know that it can only happen when you wake up, not when I go to sleep but still I’ve become more scared at bedtime. Also I feel uneasy when sleeping on my back, thinking that when I wake up I could get the “Old Hag”. This sucks becos I like to sleep on my back…
And also on top of that… because I am afraid of getting the Old hag my mind will probably generate a nightmare of having her or even worse a SP with her.
You say that I should not fear it but that is easier said than done, I can’t control my fears… and I am pretty sure I will get Old Hag at some moment. When that happens should I just close my eyes and relax (or try to relax) or alternatively try to face my fear and talk to her or something? I just want to get this over with…
Oh and if it helps I am at the moment just trying to recall my dreams and so far I have been very succesful in it. Altho this has made me think about dropping the whole thing. If I just hadn’t read this topic I would still be sleeping happily without fearing…
Or you just close your eyes when SP and HI kick in. Then there’s nothing. U fall asleep. Or when u find urself with ur eyes open; with and old hag on ur chest, u r dreaming alrdy.
Yes Da_Grunt, getting into an LD from SP is remarkably easy.
Step 1: Visualize yourself (but don’t physically attempt to) rising
from bed or slipping off your bed onto the floor. I’ve never tried it before but feeling yourself sink into your bed also works.
Step 2: When you sense that you have completed step 1 open your eyes and do a reality check.
In my opinion this is the by far easiest way of inducing an LD.
usually when things are supposed to be “scarey” in hallucinations or in my dreams I’m completely like “Yeah whatever” as if it happens all the time or something. It’s rather amusing.
My brother who didnt know anything about this he told me that he lived a this kind of thing , there was that shadow figure , he told me that he felt like it will take his soul because it moved his hand slowly to him.
Im so scared from this , im not afraid to see a witch ( they remind me of cartoons ) but a shadow figure or an alien can scare me. I dont know if i can turn it to another thing , so u thing i can swear at him and beat him? but that would make him more agressive wouldnt it?
I know that i cant close my eyes either. İ really need a plan help me
If you are a spiritual person start praying, any time I get scared I found relying on m faith in a higher power calms me down and the old hag is supposed to be a hallucination so you don’t have to worry so much…lots of people have seen it and survived
I’ve only had it once I think, and it wasnt really scary, just… uncomfortable! I don’t remember having proper hallucinations with it though, just the feeling I was being pinned down and my back was sort of bent… I wish I’d got a LD from it, but I just had a FA then woke up.
Thats a very interesting article. I like the explanation of the 2 systems that explain old hag attacks, as they say “REM based activation of inner-brain structures that monitor one’s surroundings for threats and launches responses to perceived dangers”, combined with a system that “distinguishes one’s own body and self from those of other creatures”. Together this explains pretty much the dreamed up hag and “the sensations of floating, flying, falling, leaving one’s body, and other types of movement”.
If you come to think of it, it would be logical that the sleeping body would have some automatical mechanism to warn against external dangers, and if this is triggered while still in REM, old hags and aliens might very well pop up…
I’ve had sp but no old hag . I was having a dream about swinging around in circles on a rope at my old school. I was yelling at the tree that the rope was tied to, to " Faster, faster!!" I jumped off and was just about to land when my mom opened my door irl and I woke up really fast and found I couldn’t move my body from the neck down, and couldn’t speak. My mom left my room after telling me She was leaving. I just nodded my head, it was the only thing I could do. After she left the house, The sp wore off and I could get up.
It was cool, but I wanted an old hag. oh well, I geuse my exclusive NBC interview for next time. I wonder if I’d be scared when/if i get an old hag. The scariest thing that could happen would be a nurse witha 6 foot needle on my back scary, or even a dentist with giant dentle tools…
I just happen to be trying to induce SP aswell. Most of the times I’ve gotten it I was extremely tired, so I think Fatigue might be a variable (but I hope there are easier and healthier ways). The only time I’ve successfully SP’d on command was three nights ago actually. And I spent about 30 mins meditating before I went to sleep. I’ve tried and failed the last two nights though, and I’m trying it tonight.
Also, once you’re in SP just close your eyes and focus on remaining aware. It’s the easiest thing to do ever. You’ll be in a lucid dream before you even realise what was going on.
I woke up , i was sleeping on my side. I looked at the door hoping not to see something and there was nothing. Then I thought to myself if i always suscpect such things , i will have one evetually. Then i raised my head to see my top because i felt something. There was something that looked like my brothers evil version. its weight was nearly hurting. i remember his dirty and sharp theeth. I tried to ignore it and tried to have an LD. so i closed my eyes and try to sleep. I also remember a scene where i moved my hand and think that im not paralysed anymore so i can destroy it , it wasnt at top of me but he was lying and i was standing. i try to just destroy it but i remember that he got wrinkled and he screamed and felt pain by the force from my eyes. But these images got lost and i get into a dream.
I never had an expierence with this but my twin sister did. I was up late one night like usual when someone knocked on my door and opened it, it was my sister and she was in tears and asked me to come in her room. I did and she explained to me how she was paralyzed and tried to scream for help but she couldn’t. And how something in the corner was stareing at her, and she felt and an evil presence. Putting the picies together I thought of SP so I tried to explain to her, and she wouldn’t belive.She kept saying how it felt so real. So I hopped on the net and we looked it up together and every single thing she described was there. Including sleeping in the supine postion, we both didn’t no what that was and it means sleeping on your back, and she did sleep on her back because she thought if she slept on her side it would break her out. But yea, it was a very scary thing for her, and she is still spooked by it. But it’s wierd she said before she got up and knocked on my door she thought she woke up and knocked on my door and my sister answered but it was like a false awakining. Hm
I wish I’d got a LD from it, but I just had a FA then woke up.
. I was having a dream about swinging around in circles on a rope at my old school. I was yelling at the tree that the rope was tied to, to " Faster, faster!!" I jumped off and was just about to land when my mom opened my door irl and I woke up really fast and found I couldn’t move my body from the neck down, and couldn’t speak. My mom left my room after telling me She was leaving. I just nodded my head, it was the only thing I could do. After she left the house, The sp wore off and I could get up.
scary, or even a dentist with giant dentle tools…