The BIG sleep paralysis and old hag topic Part II

Yes Da_Grunt, getting into an LD from SP is remarkably easy.

Step 1: Visualize yourself (but don’t physically attempt to) rising
from bed or slipping off your bed onto the floor. I’ve never tried it before but feeling yourself sink into your bed also works.

Step 2: When you sense that you have completed step 1 open your eyes and do a reality check.

In my opinion this is the by far easiest way of inducing an LD.

usually when things are supposed to be “scarey” in hallucinations or in my dreams I’m completely like “Yeah whatever” as if it happens all the time or something. It’s rather amusing.

My brother who didnt know anything about this he told me that he lived a this kind of thing , there was that shadow figure , he told me that he felt like it will take his soul because it moved his hand slowly to him.
Im so scared from this , im not afraid to see a witch ( they remind me of cartoons ) but a shadow figure or an alien can scare me. I dont know if i can turn it to another thing , so u thing i can swear at him and beat him? but that would make him more agressive wouldnt it?
I know that i cant close my eyes either. İ really need a plan help me

If you are a spiritual person start praying, any time I get scared I found relying on m faith in a higher power calms me down and the old hag is supposed to be a hallucination so you don’t have to worry so much…lots of people have seen it and survived

thank u , thats what im gonna do i guess.

Ihad it once, and it was horribly frightening. This horrible wolf-man came up to my bed and came up to my face and growled.

Scariest thing I’ve ever experienced, probably.

I just found this article on sleep paralysis which is quite interesting: https://sciencenews.org/articles/20050709/bob9.asp

I’ve only had it once I think, and it wasnt really scary, just… uncomfortable! I don’t remember having proper hallucinations with it though, just the feeling I was being pinned down and my back was sort of bent… :eek: I wish I’d got a LD from it, but I just had a FA then woke up.

Thats a very interesting article. I like the explanation of the 2 systems that explain old hag attacks, as they say “REM based activation of inner-brain structures that monitor one’s surroundings for threats and launches responses to perceived dangers”, combined with a system that “distinguishes one’s own body and self from those of other creatures”. Together this explains pretty much the dreamed up hag and “the sensations of floating, flying, falling, leaving one’s body, and other types of movement”.

If you come to think of it, it would be logical that the sleeping body would have some automatical mechanism to warn against external dangers, and if this is triggered while still in REM, old hags and aliens might very well pop up…

I’ve had sp but no old hag :eh: . I was having a dream about swinging around in circles on a rope at my old school. I was yelling at the tree that the rope was tied to, to " Faster, faster!!" I jumped off and was just about to land when my mom opened my door irl and I woke up really fast and found I couldn’t move my body from the neck down, and couldn’t speak. My mom left my room after telling me She was leaving. I just nodded my head, it was the only thing I could do. After she left the house, The sp wore off and I could get up.

It was cool, but I wanted an old hag. oh well, I geuse my exclusive NBC interview for next time. I wonder if I’d be scared when/if i get an old hag. The scariest thing that could happen would be a nurse witha 6 foot needle on my back :woah: scary, or even a dentist with giant dentle tools…

See you guys later :content:

hi, i was just wondering if its possible to induce SP, if so what is a good technique i could try,and how easy is it to go from SP to a LD?

I just happen to be trying to induce SP aswell. Most of the times I’ve gotten it I was extremely tired, so I think Fatigue might be a variable (but I hope there are easier and healthier ways). The only time I’ve successfully SP’d on command was three nights ago actually. And I spent about 30 mins meditating before I went to sleep. I’ve tried and failed the last two nights though, and I’m trying it tonight.

Also, once you’re in SP just close your eyes and focus on remaining aware. It’s the easiest thing to do ever. You’ll be in a lucid dream before you even realise what was going on.

Well… fall asleep on u’r back and hope you wake up in SP.
I woke up with a spinning feeling in my head… I think I should have done an OBE-roll xD.

was this an old hag?

I woke up , i was sleeping on my side. I looked at the door hoping not to see something and there was nothing. Then I thought to myself if i always suscpect such things , i will have one evetually. Then i raised my head to see my top because i felt something. There was something that looked like my brothers evil version. its weight was nearly hurting. i remember his dirty and sharp theeth. I tried to ignore it and tried to have an LD. so i closed my eyes and try to sleep. I also remember a scene where i moved my hand and think that im not paralysed anymore so i can destroy it , it wasnt at top of me but he was lying and i was standing. i try to just destroy it but i remember that he got wrinkled and he screamed and felt pain by the force from my eyes. But these images got lost and i get into a dream.

Seems like old hag indeed Hindi, but you handled it well! Not being afraid is what helps best…

I never had an expierence with this but my twin sister did. I was up late one night like usual when someone knocked on my door and opened it, it was my sister and she was in tears and asked me to come in her room. I did and she explained to me how she was paralyzed and tried to scream for help but she couldn’t. And how something in the corner was stareing at her, and she felt and an evil presence. Putting the picies together I thought of SP so I tried to explain to her, and she wouldn’t belive.She kept saying how it felt so real. So I hopped on the net and we looked it up together and every single thing she described was there. Including sleeping in the supine postion, we both didn’t no what that was and it means sleeping on your back, and she did sleep on her back because she thought if she slept on her side it would break her out. But yea, it was a very scary thing for her, and she is still spooked by it. But it’s wierd she said before she got up and knocked on my door she thought she woke up and knocked on my door and my sister answered but it was like a false awakining. Hm

thank xetrow , iwas scared to have one but when u know what it is , its not scary.
thx to this site

Yeah, I hate it. It’s the most fearful experience one can experience, as far as I am concerned.

I don’t feel like someone is sitting on me though. I just can’t breathe, can’t move, can’t open my eyes. It’s scary. And I’m always lying in an uncomfortable way, so I can’t relax. I might have my feet up side down, or something.

It’s awesome when it’s over though.

you should all overcome your fears, and take advantage of it.

I have been trying this LD thing for a while and i have allways been afraid of “ye old hag”. But this wednesday i had one in ye morning. itt folowed a realy wierd dream wich im to tierd to write down here. But anni way i like woke upp and felt that i was like “stuck in my self”. I was lying with my head rather close to the wall and i fellt like someone leand over me and told me somthing wich i cant remember. I became scared but realised that this was a SP. So i tried to roll over. I had to try hard like hell and i liked try to like make a sound or like shout. And suddenly it let go and i moved over and shouted somthing indistingushiabel.

But anny way it was realy uncomfortabel but i did not freak out like i thaught i would and it was over in a few seconds.

Um, will the hag manifest itself as the thing you are most afraid of?

Because, in all honesty, I am giving this entire thing up before I even start it if I’m ever going to ‘wake up’ to a 6-foot spider crawling on top of me.

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