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Sureal
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PostPosted: Sun 24 Jul, 2005  Reply with quote

Basilus West wrote:
I merged the posts about the same topic (but it mixed the replies a bit... confused )


Yeup - it arranged them in the order than they were posted, as opposed to grouping the two different threads together.


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PostPosted: Sun 24 Jul, 2005  Reply with quote

I think a neat trick would be to get your regular dreams to become as horribly horrific as possible; like, waking up screaming with cold sweat awful... then, the only time you ever have peace is if you're lucid... great incentive to get lucid more often wink5

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PostPosted: Tue 02 Aug, 2005  Reply with quote

Hi

A frien told me of LD And i decided to try so i checkd it out on the web. And i read about sleep paralysis and "the old hag" and it scared the crap out off me. Now im afraid to really give in to LD.

So i wonder. How big risk is it that you will experiense sleep paralysis and is there anny way to engage in LD with a lesser risk of sleep paralysis.

Please help

Exuse me for my rather crappy english.

help!


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PostPosted: Tue 02 Aug, 2005  Reply with quote

heh it's common for people at first to fear sp but after awhile you will start to enjoy it..well atleast i did and do i love sp as for the old hag.. i've never experinced it and i think it's because i don't fear it. Besides it's all in your mind if you think the old hag is there then she/it will be if you think it's somthing else the it will be there. There is a slim chance you will experince it.. but that's just my guess you may and it may scare you but.. like i said there is nothing to fear. Not to mention i've been lding for awhile and only experinced sp maybe 10 times cry and sp can be used to induce lucid dreams aswell .. so just look on the bright side of things smile

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PostPosted: Tue 02 Aug, 2005  Reply with quote

Okay thanks.
So i guess ill try it annt way. smile


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PostPosted: Tue 02 Aug, 2005  Reply with quote

After about 30 lucid dreams, I've never experienced sleep paralysis. I think it's a pretty random occurence and lucid dreaming doesn't increase the chance too much. (the WILD technique might increase the chances though...) But yeah, there's no need to really fear it anyway, it's not real.

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PostPosted: Tue 02 Aug, 2005  Reply with quote

I agree with Mike716. I've about 100 LD's and I never experienced sleep paralysis. People who practice LD'ing and sometimes experience SP with hallucinations had this sleep trouble before they began practising. And a lot of people practice WILD without having such hallucinations.

If there are many sleep paralyzed people on LD forums, it's because people who are subject to this sleep trouble generally want to understand what happens: they search internet and finally discover lucid dreaming.

(I was just merging posts about the same subject, that's the reason why I merged your post.)


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PostPosted: Thu 04 Aug, 2005  Reply with quote

Acctually I get demonic voices while WILDing. I can remember two WILD's right now that come in mind. One I heard som satanic prayer thingy. Must've been the sound of water tap that was distorted in my mind.

Second time I heard screams. Just bunch of people screaming out of horror.

The reason I'm telling you this isn't to make you afraid. Because both those times were AWESOME!!! I loved hearing those things!

So, Hypnooajfpihsdpfghdsfg things are only as scary as you make them.


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PostPosted: Fri 05 Aug, 2005  Reply with quote

Dreaming to me means that you are put in a position to conquer/face your fears and or demons.

So I guess demons can be scary.. but knowing that it is a dream gives you the power to dissolve and manipulate such fears.


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PostPosted: Fri 05 Aug, 2005  Reply with quote

I have never had sleep paralysis, but a few times I have woken up (from a normal dream, mind you) with "the fear" as I called it, which is the same thing as "the old hag" I believe.

Just lying in bed and everything seems... wrong... Once I looked out the window and the sky was the weirdest shade of orange I ever saw - and this was real, not a false awakening, because I woke someone else up to see it eek2, a real eerie light just before dawn. Felt like the world was about to end.

Anyways, I've never had a lucid dream end in anything scary. Once I had a weird and scary "demon eyes" experience while meditating and listening to bwgen... but that was actually really cool, as PutBoy said before me.


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PostPosted: Fri 05 Aug, 2005  Reply with quote

Yes, although demons, old hags, screeching sounds, nightmares and all that can be pretty scary, lucidity might really offer the solution. If you don't become lucid while experiencing these things, you're fully absorbed by the fear, thinking it's all really happening. What you fail to realize then is that these dreadful images keep existing and turning into even worse scenarios because of your fear. Fear is what feeds them. Therefore, becoming lucid is the ultimate tool to conquer your fear and dissolve the nightmarish scenes. Sometimes you still need to have a lot of courage to walk towards a 10ft giant monster, but KNOWING that it's all illusionary will almost always transform the creatures into more pleasing persons. Lucid nightmares where you can transform your aggressors, talk to them and embrace them are one of the most powerful, healing and invigorating experiences I know off.

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PostPosted: Sat 20 Aug, 2005  Reply with quote

Totally empathize with being scared dude! That old hag thing sounds pretty terrifying if you ask me. I wouldn't want to go to sleep again if I saw something like that. But I agree with everyone else, the good always outweighs the bad.

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PostPosted: Sun 21 Aug, 2005  Reply with quote

A few days ago i read a bunch of old hag posts and i decided to stay awake till sunrise ^^ hehe (i wasn't scared at all! grin ) [ cry ]

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PostPosted: Sun 21 Aug, 2005  Reply with quote

Hi zzz...zzz...! wink
zzz...zzz... wrote:
Totally empathize with being scared dude! That old hag thing sounds pretty terrifying if you ask me.

Most of the dreamers have never seen the old hag thing. It's a problem you may have if you're subject to a sleep trouble which is called "sleep paralysis". And amongst this population, only about 10% experience old hag-like strong hallucinations. It's not really a lucid dreaming problem.


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PostPosted: Sun 21 Aug, 2005  Reply with quote

so there is only a small chance of me experiencing 'old hag'?

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