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PostPosted: Tue 16 Aug, 2005  Reply with quote

Here in Canada gas is up around $1.03. We have the same problem with our gas station signs, some of them say things like 1.3 because they don't have room for the 0 in the middle.

I say, impose a price cap on gasoline, the cost for this stuff is getting rediculous.


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my answer to the problem

is if you bothered about money and the lack of it, cycle it is cheaper, the insurance is cheaper, the running costs are cheaper, it makes you healthier, espically if u live in a city it is certainly quicker than a car (it may not be healthy in inner city but to sort this problem buy a filter mask), you don't pollute the environment and by doing this your not only helping yourself but everyone else.

If u do intend on keeping your car, try and brake less, don't use air conditioning, don't use the stereo, don't get sat nav (this stops the engine using as much fuel). Also by grouping together and one person driving for four ppl who would normally all drive to work on their owns, everybody savesmoney and time, as the less people on the roads the quicker and safer you can get to work ( you also become less selfish).

I am not a eco-warrior but I like cycling and I like helping people, espically when I am not polluting the environment for once as I use the computer all the time and the energy for the computer comes from the power station which burns fuel.

also the reason why the oil, the oil producers get is so deep underground and difficult to get at, is it produces so much harm to us, thats why it is a far away as materially possible.

and if you saying to yourself "even if I did get a bicycle I wouldn't be able to travel very far", well every year I do the manchester - blackpool cycle ride which is 60miles in one day, I have also done chester - abersoch with my friends and it took us two days and that was 250miles. I know it sounds like a long time to be travelling but if you want to help other ppl you have to go to great lengths to do it. Also where I live most of things I need are within 5 miles of me (e.g. food, clothes, shops, entertainment, airport, parks). If I have a friend who lives in London then I cycle to the train station and get on the train.

The only time I actually need a car is when I am moving stuff from one place to another, and this time is normally when I move house, as in recent years I have been a student and every year I have moved to a new house.


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PostPosted: Tue 16 Aug, 2005  Reply with quote

also to answer fadem

in the uk most cars do around 40miles to the gallon

but I am still not suggesting cars are worth it on the grand sense of things


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PostPosted: Tue 16 Aug, 2005  Reply with quote

samzen05 wrote:
also to answer fadem

in the uk most cars do around 40miles to the gallon

but I am still not suggesting cars are worth it on the grand sense of things


Ur making me convert again...

But since u talk uk...

1 UK gallon = 4,54609 liters
1 US gallon = 3,78541 liters

Damn u US/UK people... use the metrical system the other people in the world use too -_-...

1 mile = 1.60934 kilometres.

1 UK gallon = 4,54609 liters
40 miles = 64,37376 kilometres

Ehr...

Oh... 64,37376/4,54609= 14,117082

So 1 litre to 14,117082 kilometres... Hmz... Guess that's normal, my dad's car does 1 litre to 8 kilometres though =D...

Alfa Romeo GT.. YEAH! XP


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PostPosted: Tue 16 Aug, 2005  Reply with quote

Well, I did buy a bike a few weeks ago, and I am pleased with it, but lets face it, not everyone can ride a bike. You can't substitute a fire truck or an ambulance for a bicycle, so lowering fuel prices is still a good idea.

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Re: cars and why we don't need them
PostPosted: Wed 17 Aug, 2005  Reply with quote

samzen05 wrote:


and if you saying to yourself "even if I did get a bicycle I wouldn't be able to travel very far", well every year I do the manchester - blackpool cycle ride which is 60miles in one day, I have also done chester - abersoch with my friends and it took us two days and that was 250miles. I know it sounds like a long time to be travelling but if you want to help other ppl you have to go to great lengths to do it. Also where I live most of things I need are within 5 miles of me (e.g. food, clothes, shops, entertainment, airport, parks).


Right now I'm saying to myself...even if I did get a bicycle I wouldn't be able to travel very far. The primary reason for this is because my job necessitates having a motorized vehicle with lots of storage space.

Unless, of course, you know of a method to haul around four hundred pounds worth of newspapers over 22 miles on a bicycle, every single night. Except for Sunday, which is more like a thousand pounds of newspapers.


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PostPosted: Wed 17 Aug, 2005  Reply with quote

well i don't know a realistic idea, but an idea would be to fix 10 bicycles together to add up the power to weight ratio and put an advertisement up for unemplyed people who like exercise and then on the back stick a trailer and deliver your weight(newspapers)

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PostPosted: Wed 17 Aug, 2005  Reply with quote

Fadem wrote:
Newb wrote:
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Venezuelan gasoline: about €0,03
that is impossible (unless they steal the ptrol?)



Ehrm... They said some reason on the news why it's so cheap there, but I forgot ._."


Venezuela has (I think) the fifth largest oil reserve in the world... or something like that. The US is one of its biggest consumers.

Also, Venezuela hasn't privitised its oil companies (even though there is increasing pressure by the US for them to do so). SO, all the money they are earning is going back to the people, and they can afford to have lower oil prices.


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PostPosted: Wed 17 Aug, 2005  Reply with quote

Speaking of oil reserves, I don't know why Canada doesn't just start refining it's own oil and keep it in the country for our use, instead of paying rediculous prices for other countries oil. The Alberta Oil sands are the largest oil reserve in the world, and could fuel Canada itself for another 300 years (thank you highschool geography class :D )

Anyways, its implausible to deliver 1000 pounds of newspapers on a bike in on day, so either we need to lower fuel prices or start building electric newspaper delivery trucks.
Why haven't we converted to electric cars yet anyway, heck, we've already got hydrogen fuel cell busses, what the heck is the hold up?


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PostPosted: Wed 17 Aug, 2005  Reply with quote

meh... and youre complaining bout gas prizes...

its like 1.30e for 98 here, 1.24 for 95 and 0.999e for diesel...and you americans dare to complain bout expensive gas <-<


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PostPosted: Wed 17 Aug, 2005  Reply with quote

the funny part is that here in france they say that up north (eg holland) gas is much cheaper lach1

it's about 10 eurocent or more cheaper here in france.


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PostPosted: Sun 21 Aug, 2005  Reply with quote

Fadem wrote:
Newb wrote:
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Venezuelan gasoline: about €0,03
that is impossible (unless they steal the ptrol?)



Ehrm... They said some reason on the news why it's so cheap there, but I forgot ._."


That is because Venezuela is a word leader in oil production.


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PostPosted: Mon 22 Aug, 2005  Reply with quote

Josh Redstone wrote:
D )

Anyways, its implausible to deliver 1000 pounds of newspapers on a bike in on day, so either we need to lower fuel prices or start building electric newspaper delivery trucks.


Or we could revolutionize the bicycle with advanced lever mechanisms and counter-weights so that you actually could haul around 1,000 pounds.

I wonder if that would be possible....


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PostPosted: Mon 22 Aug, 2005  Reply with quote

If it worked, I bet the rider would still be awefully tired once he delivered all his papers lachgroen

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PostPosted: Sat 10 Sep, 2005  Reply with quote

errr are we forgetting that this is about signs? well on the radio today they said that because
1.they dont have the room for prices over a pound
2.by law they must advertse
3. selling at 99.9p would be sellign at a loss

that basically means that until they get new signs its illegal for petrol stations to sell at a profit, crisis or what wink5


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