The BIG WILD topic - Part XIV

It happened to me once, but tha was not quiet the same thing. I woke up from a lucid dream, i did an RC to check i was really awake, but i couldn’t breathe through my nose closed and i choke for a few seconds… :bored:

No it wasn’t like that. I wasn’t really doing any RC’s or anything. I just couldn’t breath at all, until I ran downstairs and got some water.

But maybe it has something to do with the fact that I was sleeping on my back, which I very rarely do? I have no idea what it was.

Has anyone else found counting backwards better than counting forwards?

Hi, I’m pretty new here, but I think I am pretty close to a lucid dream via WILD.
Okay, this is my techniuqe. I lie down on my back with my hands on my abdommen feeling my breaths go in and out, (pot breathing). After a few minutes I begin to hear a sort of buzz kind of like a “eueueeueeeue”. After that I start to feel my right hand become parlysed. Pretty soon the other hand is parlysed as well as my arms and one of my legs. It takes about 15 minutes for all this to happen, but after that, nothing. I can lay there for an hour and still nothing else seems to happen. I’ve only got HI twice and those were when I was’nt trying to WILD. Also on occasion I get this spinning feeling but it dos’nt last long. When I do eventually get up I can barely feel any of my limbs.

I should also note that usually I listen to soft music while doing this.

I guess my questions are
1.Do I absolutley HAVE to have HI to do WILD or do some people not have any visuals at all.

2.Also, most importantly, what should I do one I get to the point were I don’t know what to do?

Thanks for reading because I know its pretty long and hard to follow :content: also thanks in advance for any feedback.

Well, I’ve had 1 LD with absolutely NO previous imagery, I just popped in. Most of them, however, were DILD or had HI preceding.

Maybe you should try it without the music, and try to fall asleep more. I find that when I attempt to WILD, I am super awake.

Something else to keep in mind is that perhaps you should just try another technique… I got about as far as you with WILDing and could never do it, so I try MILD and eventually had a bunch of LDs. Good luck.

Music can often be distracting; it has never worked for me so try without the music.

I have a question to add:

i was extremely close to WILD’ing today…problem was as soon as i felt my body begin to sorta project towards the dream as my body fell asleep, which took along time to get to, some part of my body would involentarily jerk and i would wake up instantly. it happened like 4 times. sometimes the jerks even got pretty intense…how can i either avoid this or ignore it completely?>? frusterating…thanks

Thanks for the replies everyone, I’ve also been trying MILD for about a week and its wielding some pretty good results.

Hello! I just found this website via a friend, and after reading through it decided to try a WILD last night. For background information, I’ve had some LD’s in the past without really knowing what they were, so I know it’s possible for me.

To the point, though, last night I layed down and got comfortable (or so I thought), and tried just keeping conscious as I fell asleep. The way I did this is that my ears ring, and I just tried to focus on it. Now, it started to work very quickly, and I was actually rather shocked. After the noise got louder and louder I felt myself go sort of numb, the normal feelings in my body were mostly going away. I could hear my breathing loudly, and it was shaky because I could tell what was happening and I was a mix of scared/excited. I was like that for a while, somewhat just exploring that state. I could tell that I could move my body anytime I wanted, and it was kind of like there was a fuzzy line around my arms and legs as far as feeling them goes, if that makes sense. At that point I started trying to go into LD again, having calmed my breath down and starting to relax a little more. I started counting from 1, hoping to be asleep at 10. No such luck, of course. ^^ My thoughts started getting really, really disjointed, and I was trying to envision being somewhere I used to go when young with marginal success. I was talking to myself in my head a little also, but the main thing I remember is hearing voices, lots of different ones, and random sounds. There were some real sounds also, which really kinda shocked me when I heard them, jolting almost. That definitely didn’t help. Anyway! I heard the voices and kept counting, and sort of stopped around 73 or so. My arm had started to hurt a bit, i was sleeping on my side, so I wanted to try to stop that so I rolled onto my back. Well… that sort of killed it. I was very slightly ‘trance like’ i guess i’d call it, still, but after that I just fell asleep normally, and I can’t even remember if I dreamed or not (or what it was if I did). Another thing, also. Earlier on I felt like I was spinning, before I was fully in that ‘trance like’ state. It was a bit strange, like the spinning was coming from in front of my eyes, or was in my eyes, and it wasn’t just me spinning together, it was like a separate spinning for both eyes. Another thing that happened later on, which is probably the closest I came, is that I felt pressure on my head. I started trying to concentrated on it, and it sort of slowly moved down my forehead and face, and I tried to make it stronger… but that failed eventually.

On a side note… I had a very hard time keeping my eyes closed, it was like they naturally wanted to open up. I was somewhat afraid to open them, thinking it would end it right there. I actually did it once and it set me back a ways… Is there a way to have to keep from consciously holding your eyes closed? This stops me from falling asleep normally, too ^^ I was sort of thinking/wondering that if I just let them open i’d ‘wake up’ in LD. Anyone know what the chances of that are?

Are there any suggestions for what I can try to do to become successful? Did I do anything right, did I do anything wrong? :slight_smile: Please, all input is appreciated. I guess this might not be the right place to post since I’m being so descrptive, but I’m mostly looking for advice on how to actually acchive LD. Also… sorry for being so long winded!

Well i dont know much since ive only had one succesfull WILD attempt but from what ive heard you have to avoid focusing on physical sensations as much as possible and concentrate on your thoughts, you could try repeating yourself that you are dreaming whenever you are in that state, i also find it comfortable to lay on my back while im WILDing and to listen to some relaxing music 4 a while, it helps me get where you currently are and then i let my thoughts wander till i see HI or something.

For WILD, no.
You don’t need HI to WILD. As long as you can achieve sp, or a deeply relaxed state, you can ld. As for what you should do. Maybe you are thinking too much and that’s halting the process. It took me forever to learn just how much I can think without staying too awake, but also at the same time not falling asleep. My guess is you get to where nothing happens, and then because nothing happens, even though you don’t mean to, you think about what to do next.

How do I think?

I think just as if I was dreaming. When I imagine something in my head, I immerse myself, but not by going into extreme detail. I do quite the opposite. I do everything on impulse. I’ll be some where and I’ll want to go elsewhere. I don’t think about the trip there, I just am there. No inbetween. If I want to do something, I don’t think about getting prepared to do it, I just do it.

Hope this helps. :confused:

I had an almost sucessful WILD this morning by doing this:

I let my thoughts wander, until I thought of the ants in my classroom the other day. Then I tried to imagine an interesting scene with ants. For some reasons I came up with a brightly colored kitchen table with ants crawling onto a peice of cake. This scene came out of my SC. Then, I tried to imagine what the side of the cake would look like. When I did this, I actually saw a weak image of the side of the cake, and got a jolt in my stomach. This jolt pulled me out of the HI, though.

The trick is to while regaining conciousness, let your SC dictate your thoughts. It just takes practice.

I actually have 1 more question.

If you don’t use hynognic imagery for WILD then you won’t see anything right? So if you don’t see anything how do you enter the dream? Do you just get up out of bed when you think you’re asleep and actually in reality you’re getting up out of a DREAM bed in a DREAM room?

Thanks

Generally speaking, most of the WILD’ers who don’t have HI use to spin around their axis when they have another kind of hypnagogic hallucinations. Then they find themselves in a LD.

Hey I found this WILD webpage. This guy talks about a song induced WILD. I had never heard of that before, sounds interesting…

Does anybody have a song I could use that I could, (cough), download from the net??

aramisw.com/luciddreaming.asp

Reyth

I found it!

It’s Dream On by Aerosmith!!!

Every time that I look in the mirror
All these lines on my face gettin’ clearer
The past has gone
It went by like dusk to dawn
Isn’t that the way
Everybody’s got their dues in life to pay

Yeah, I know nobody knows
Where it comes and where it goes
I know it’s everybody’s sin
You got to lose to know how to win

Half my life’s in books written pages
Livin’ and learnin’ from fools and from sages
You know it’s true
All the things come back to you

Sing with me, sing for the year
Sing for the laughter and sing for the tear
Sing with me, if it’s just for today
Maybe tomorrow the good Lord will take you away

Well…sing with me, sing for the year
Sing for the laughter
And sing for the tear
Sing with me, if it’s just for today
Maybe tomorrow the good Lord will take you away

Dream on, dream on, dream on
Dream yourself a dream come true
Dream on, dream on, dream on
And dream until your dream comes true

Dream on, dream on, dream on, dream on
Dream on, dream on, dream on…aaahhh

Sing with me, sing for the year
Sing for the laughter
And sing for the tear
Sing with me, if it’s just for today
Maybe tomorrow good Lord will take you away

Sing with me, sing for the year
Sing for the laughter
And sing for the tear
Sing with me, if it’s just for today
Maybe tomorrow the good Lord will take you away.

:happy: :happy: :happy:

YAHOOOOO!!! :thud:

Reyth

Man it’s scary out there in song download land… Looks like I’m going to have to pay $1.00 for the song and you know what? That’s not a bad deal since I only want ONE song…

Reyth

Hey, I just had an interesting experience that I thought I might related to you all.

A few hours ago, I settled down to nap, with the intention to WILD. After lying still for a while and observing hypnogogia, I felt the familiar sensation of SP spreading through my arms and legs, as usual, and allowed the process to progress as it would, which in this case was unsurprisingly quickly. After about ten minutes, my heart began to race and my body began to tingle; I also felt a sensation of movement, as if I was rushing forward at high speed. This is probably the closest I’ve ever come to successfully inducing a WILD; it seems I was right on the threshold.

However, the odd occurrence happened when I noticed that the strong, tingly feeling described above was basically removing all traces of SP from my system. I quickly found I could feel my limbs again, and that they were soon very easy to move; soon after, I got out of bed, feeling awake but rather let down. Just to be sure, I did an RC with the clock next to my bed, and, sure enough, I was wide awake. Seems the regular process somehow worked in reverse. :eh:

Any thoughts?

I have a couple questions to do with WILD.

  1. Whenevrer i try to wild, i can usually forget about my body pretty quickly, and i think i may be getting SP but i dont know, when u have SP can u seriously not move at all? cuz if i try i can move my arm and such.

  2. I get to a point wheere i keep thinking about weird things, that make no sence, but then i quickly think logically again. Then for some reason i like feel my eyeballs behind my eyelids start to wiggle super fast, its hard to keep my eyes close when this happens. I havent got HI yet i think, but then when im in my supposedly SP and all that, it all goes away, and i have to start again. Its really fustrating

Ive experienced similar things… No SP for me yet, but i’ve just been at it a few months. Been slacking off kind of lately, though… Anyways id say you get better at it with experience.