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sirius)(black
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PostPosted: Wed 08 Feb, 2006  Reply with quote

maybe you can jump from dream to dream without knowing it or it just, as pasquale says, snips
in other words, it's the same story, only later


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PostPosted: Wed 08 Feb, 2006  Reply with quote

archdreamer wrote:
I remember Freecube and R3tro used to claim to spend several hours in their LDs. Mabye any interested parties could PM them, if they are still around.

They also claimed to have like 300 LDs a month.


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PostPosted: Thu 09 Feb, 2006  Reply with quote

lol big fraud then:P

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PostPosted: Thu 09 Feb, 2006  Reply with quote

Well first of all, i don't think you can have an LD that last hours since a REm phase never last so long... neutral

And I think that false memories can make people believe they have dreams that seems to last days or more, when they do not...


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PostPosted: Thu 09 Feb, 2006  Reply with quote

I don't think dreams particularly have time. It's the concept of time that we have that we attach to such dreams. It appears you can consciously change this factor within dreams, just like anything else.

I would find it hard to believe that an entire years worth of detail could be recalled in an hour. I can't remember what I ate last week.



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PostPosted: Mon 13 Feb, 2006  Reply with quote

But I read somewhere that you can have two REM phase that link togheter without you knowing that.

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Stopping time
PostPosted: Sat 18 Feb, 2006  Reply with quote

<mod edit> I merged this with 'Length!' since the topics were similar. =] wolf </mod edit>

I have heard lately that you can stop time in your dreams in order to have dreams lasting for hours or even days.

Is it possible? Do you have experiences with them? Can you give good advice?

I want to try it.


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Re: Stopping time
PostPosted: Sun 19 Feb, 2006  Reply with quote

Gonzo wrote:
I have heard lately that you can stop time in your dreams in order to have dreams lasting for hours or even days.

Is it possible? Do you have experiences with them? Can you give good advice?

I want to try it.


Yeah it's very possible. heh, I just wrote something like this in a thread about WILD, but I'll repeat myself. You have to basically will it to happen, and believe in it. How can you do that? Well, simple...use visual techniques. An example would be, creating a pill, and telling yourself, that when you take that pill, all time will stop/slow down, OR you could just simply say when you swallow that pill, your dream will be a week long. If you believe in that pill, and if you expect that to happen, it will. It's as simple as that.

If visual techniques don't work out for you...then you could just shout as loud as you can, directing it to your sub c, that you want to have a week long dream. Either way works perfect if you do it correctly smile


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PostPosted: Mon 20 Feb, 2006  Reply with quote

I was just thinking about this. It would be so refreshing to have an hour long lucid dream, atleast that seemed like an hour while being dreamt.

Would you just say, "STOP TIME" or what?
What if that just made everyone around you freeze in place?

What are some other verbal commands we could try?

It would really be beneficial to understand how to control your mind/brain to the extent that you could litterally think so fast, while in a lucid dream, that it seems time from the external world stopped. IF this could be accomplished, then we could virtually remain in our own world as long as we wanted, depending on how fast we sped up our thinking fast enough.

Any ideas on how to accomplish this?


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PostPosted: Mon 20 Feb, 2006  Reply with quote

it would almost like living forever you could have your dream extend and not stop then finally end it and youd wake up and an hour of real time had past! that would be awesome!

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PostPosted: Mon 20 Feb, 2006  Reply with quote

Yeah! It would be like immortality. smile That's why it's so important we learn how to do it. It would just be one more plus to lucid dreaming.

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PostPosted: Tue 21 Feb, 2006  Reply with quote

Darxide wrote:
I was just thinking about this. It would be so refreshing to have an hour long lucid dream, atleast that seemed like an hour while being dreamt.

Would you just say, "STOP TIME" or what?
What if that just made everyone around you freeze in place?

What are some other verbal commands we could try?

It would really be beneficial to understand how to control your mind/brain to the extent that you could litterally think so fast, while in a lucid dream, that it seems time from the external world stopped. IF this could be accomplished, then we could virtually remain in our own world as long as we wanted, depending on how fast we sped up our thinking fast enough.

Any ideas on how to accomplish this?

You use whatever commands that help you know what you are trying to accomplish. Whatever stopping time means to you, is what will happen. I could think stopping time would mean I get ice cream instantly. Think of the saying as a function. It isn't about what it is called...it's about what it does smile

In a lucid dream...anything is possible.


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PostPosted: Tue 21 Feb, 2006  Reply with quote

I heard the Lucid Institute tested a man to see how long he could make his dreams last. He woke up and accounted every detail of a dream estimated at forty years. He was only asleep for eight hours. The article was not well written-- so the whole thing wasn't very clear to me-- I tried explaining the best I could.

Julian Iron wrote:
I think that false memories can make people believe they have dreams that seems to last days or more, when they do not...


I agree with that, false memory might make you think that. However my false memory usually is only of one simple thing that ties onto what is going on. (For example, in the dream my parents are angry. They say I didn't wash the dog even though in the dream I was never told to--I just know I was supposed to.)


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PostPosted: Wed 22 Feb, 2006  Reply with quote

I agree with the false memory thing, even if you could stop time or make your LD mentally drag on for a week, the maximum amount of time that could possibly pass depends on how long you sleep for. Personally the longest LD I have ever had seemed to last for only a couple minutes but it still took up the bulk of my time asleep (probably 7-8 hours).

Consider this, how do you know time is passing right now? You know because of the various stimuli acting on the receptive parts of the brain (seeing the time, hunger, growing thirst, exhaustion, daylight and nighttime, ect.). Your brain does not know how long you have slept exactly when you wake up, if you didn't open your eyes and see the time or feel anything or see daylight (or the lack of), how could you tell if you slept for 5 hours or 5 days? you probably can't, because without the senses you don't have any refrence to draw your conclusion from.

*FOOTNOTES* Basically what I'm saying is that since your brain has deactivated your senses and logic in your sleep, it is unable to comprehend the amount of time that has passed and takes it's only indication of time from everchanging sensations in a LD, thus it cannot be trusted. False perception of time.

lol sorry for the length, I'm kinda sick and have nothing better to do at 8pm. whatsthat


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PostPosted: Thu 23 Feb, 2006  Reply with quote

one time i had an ld that, while i was sleeping, seemed like days, but when i woke up it felt like it was about 20 minutes. does anyone know why eek2[/code](this is my bro who is now is mech117.)It's sorta like movies where you see someone in bed and then it turns to the clock and its 8 hrs. later and you just believe it, es mismo.

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