The BIG sleep paralysis and old hag topic Part III

You may find as you are performing WILD and in general practising lucid dreaming that you may ocassionally be aware during sleep paralysis.

I get SP all the time. At least 3 times a week. It’s kind of annoying, and I always find myself on my back (I never sleep on my back)

I had an extremely intense hallucination during my first SP. My entire room became some kind of demonic underworld. I heard ghostly voices and there was a very loud “sucking” noise the whole time, like howling wind mixed with movie sound effects, you know?

anyway it was really crazy. And everything faded away as I came out of the paralysis. I think it was pretty cool even though I felt a bit of fear. :smile:

I see… thanks :happy:

Yeah, I’ve experienced that too.I couldnt move and saw shadows moving and strange voices howling around the room. Hypnagogic Imagery + Sleep Paralysis can be quite scary if you dont know whats happening :smile:

Topic merged

I am new to these forums as of 5 minutes ago, so please excuse my ignorance, but I am getting desperate for help. This SP happens to me every night without fail. I cannot move for the life of me, yet I know I’m not dreaming because I’m right where I was before I laid down and the same show is still on T.V ect…An overwhelming sense of fear overcomes me. I don’t know why or what there is to be afraid of. As far as the witch that I’ve read a bit about. I don’t see anything like that, but I do see other things- for example I heard something moving around in the branches of my plant in the corner, and another time I heard someone walking around on my front porch and knocking at my door. I tried so hard one time to move that I was grinding my teeth so hard that I actually chipped one. This only started a couple months ago. Anyone know what brings this on?? It happend for the first time with my wife lying beside me the other night. The worst time this happens is when my 5 month old son is sleeping on my chest, I mean what if he starts crying or needs something, and for christ’s sake I can’t even move. At the same time though I thought that when this happens I am actually dreaming or having an out of body experience because for example one time that it happend- I was lying down on the couch in the living room, I couldn’t move but I could see into the kitchen, which just isn’t physically possible unless i can see through walls. That was what made me think maybe an out of body experience. When I tried to do that again though (moving around out of my body or trying to see into other rooms) it didn’t work. I am now conviced it is just SP. Why is this happening to me every night and why do I also feel so afraid. Someone please help…

Hey coffee… :smile:

What you experienced is, indeed, SP. SP is most of the time associated with fear, mainly because the one who experience it does not know what is going on. Don’t worry, nothing can hurt you… :smile:

Ones can see a bunch of different kind of hallucinations, in a big majority people hear or sense an evilish presence.
Stress can increase the frequency of SP, sleeping with light on as well. There is some things you can do to decrease this frequency. Try to sleep in an usual position ( sleeping on your back may be triggering SP ), do not leave any lights on when going to bed, and don’t be affraid, the more you’ll be affraid, the more you will likely have SP.

Don’t worry, what happens during SP is all dream, even though it seems so realistic. Further more, an external stimuli makes SP disappear almost right away. IF your baby cries when you have an SP, you will get out of it immediatly.

That makes me think it is actually a dream.

I don’t know why, and maybe you shouldn’t see this as a plague but as an opportunity to get a lucid dream every time it hapopens. It ain’t easy but with a little practise, considerig you have a lot of SP ) you may make progress very quickly…

Agree, well said.
Additionally- see if anything changes during the summer when you get lot more of the sun.SP is said(in theory only so far) to be effect of lowered amount of some hormones (lower than others,not low as dangerous).
Take a look around here,there are a lot of interesting posts about SP.
Good luck!:slight_smile:

Hi cofee! Welcome to the forum! :wave:

What you experienced is SP. I merged your topic into the BIG SP/Old Hag topic in the hope you’ll find there many others accounts about this phenomenon. :smile:

I believe what cofee experienced was a type of SP, however the ability to see things which are not physically possible is consistent with some stages of OBE. This ability has been documented by Monroe and Robert Bruce (I think). They mention the ability to “extend” your vision, but also your limbs. I have read that it is possible to extend your arms around corners, down staircases etc like plasticman, in this state. Maybe you could try that next time? In the early stages of deliberate OBE’s you will feel that it is not possible to move your physical body, and I believe this is the same as SP. I wouldn’t be worried about neglecting your baby, because if you sensed any kind of distress of the baby, or danger, you would immediately regain consciousness and be ready to act. :smile:

Well i’m glad i’ve come across this forum!

I first experienced SP two years ago, and it scared the crap out of me. I thought I was being attacked by…and don’t laugh (too hard)…my demon fan!!! (as in electric fan):`(

Well two years later, I’ve started back experiencing SP (since last week) every single night, and it’s only when my standing fan is on. Since nobody around me knew about SP, I just believed that there was something really “ooga booga” going on.

I am 3 months pregnant so I was wondering if it had anything to do with that, but after doing my research I really don’t think so anymore.

One night I woke up, ofcourse unable to move or speak, and opened my eyes just wide enough to see the room glowing red. Due to my wonderful memory I can’t remember whatelse happened. That was last Friday.

Since then I have had very vivid SP episodes where the fan was actually talking to me and I tried to make friends with it…(you know it all made sense then hehe)…the fan then morphed into a plastic human and was kneeling down next to me resting its head on my legs. I remember trying to stick my toungue out at it and actually getting about a third of it out.

Thankfully I have horrible eye sight (-11 to be exact) so when I see these things they are not crystal clear and full of detail. I think this is the first time I’m happy that I’m so blind :grin:

Last night it happened twice, but since googling SP (tgfG) :grin:, I’ve had practically no fear about this. I was hearing a baby crying, it should have freaked me out, but I thought “yeh yeh, this is the part where the sound kicks in” and brushed it off. I felt like a good little soldier :wiske: .

My only query is, why does this only happen when my fan is on?..I’ve been sleeping with a fan on for years (since my ac got sabotaged ages ago). It just baffles me. I’ve also been a lot more stressed out and tired before, and have had no problems.

I wish I could find an explanation so that I can stop giving my fan funny looks. :neutral:

It could be the noise… you are keeping focused on the sound while going to sleep and so remain aware when entering the usual SP that happens every night.

yeah that’s probably it :tongue:

I had a horrbile SP/Old Hag dream about a year ago, it was literaly the scariest thing in my life.

I had been researching bun victims, and decided to got sleep. I had a un-intentional MILD which converted into a wake back to bed dream, and then a SP/old hag dream.

Heres what happened

I had been dreaming for a while but my orginal dream wasn’t clear, after a while I woke up and saw the pictures of the burned people on my computer screen, but I could only remember small fragments of my dream, I then fell back asleep. My dream started out lucid but I quickly lost lucidity and the dream became a WBTB dream. Seriously this was the weirdest dream experience of my life. I woke up (in my dream) and walked downstairs, but I was confronted with a large darkness, and then an old hag in the form of a dark withered burn victim… quickly I lost control and it became an old hag dream, I was in deep paralasyis, I couldn’t even breathe, or scream. It was the worst thing I’ve ever been through, it went on for a long while, maybe 15 seconds.

Sadly the whole thing has really turned me off of LDing, I want to do it, but I fear the more dreams I remember, the more stuff like this will happen.

Hi Machina, and welcome to LD4all! :welcome:

A few years ago, I used to be troubled by SP and old hag hallucinations. I woke up, couldn’t move, and there was an eerie black shadow in my room! Sometimes, it would move slowly towards me, while I was paralysed…needless to say, i was terribly scared. It was more common when I woke up than when I was falling asleep.

My brother had the same problem. One night, he had a lucid dream, which was interrupted by that black shadow in his room. This time he had enough. He waited until he could move, and kicked a pillow forcefully in the hag’s direction. He told me the LD the next day, and none of us have ever seen it again.

Recently, my sister has also had periods with more SP than usual because of real life worries. Sleep paralysis is, in my experience, more likely to occur in times of stress or little sleep. I don’t know why so many people get that hallucination, it could be the image of some primal instinct? Maybe it is just a visualisation of fear?

My point is: I can usually remember at least one dream , usually two a night, 365 days a year. The last year I have experienced SP twice. I don’t think it follows lucid dreaming practice. In fact, both my sister and me has had less SP since we started practicing lucid dreaming. The only exception is practicing the WILD induction method, since it sometimes tries to induce SP.

Posting here is a nice first step. :cool: I wish you good luck, and many sweet dreams in the future. Maybe you could even confront the hag in a lucid dream once.

Do you think when you try to wake up and your in the state between of sleeping and waking up its SP ?

Because I experienced strong SP with fearless hallucination and some scary one but I think when you trying to just waking up , just trying to move but coudlnt because your lost again because you want to sleep , is it SP ?

Merged into the BIG SP/Old Hag topic

Before I heard about Lucid Dreaming I heard about Sleep Paralysis. Seemed damn freaky/scary. Lying in bed, paralysed, ‘old hag’ comes on your chest and possibly strangels you…you actually have trouble breathing and sometimes wake up gasping for air.

First of all how common is SP? How related to LD is it? I hear it is somewhat a path or side-effect to LD. I honestly am not al l that up to having an expirience like that just to be able to be concious in dreams.

Second, does having Sleep Paralysis nessecarially mean you will have this expirience with old hag?

Thanks again in advance. :smile:

SP is actually ratehr common nad are often induced by LDs. But its really not that big of a deal. yhe shure it was one of the most terrefying things i have ever experienced. But now i dont think i would b anny scared at all.

But seriously LDing is definetley worth a SP!!!

And its not even shure you will have one.

SP happens every night you sleep. Every single night. I don’t think it’s terrifying at all. In fact, I tried to induce SP last night (which I did; don’t ask me why I wanted to, 'cause even I don’t know…).

But SP is probably only scary if you don’t know what’s happening.

I’ve never had Old Hag. It’s not exactly common, and even if you do, it’s not always a scary experience. Above all, remember it’s all in your head.

Heck, I didn’t have SP until about a month or so after LD’ing…

SP is FUN and GOOD when it comes to lucid dreaming. You’re able to get into dreams easier when you WILD. I’ve never had Old Hag, personally. As long as you remember it’s all in your mind, nothing can scare you. :smile:

If you’d like, there’s lots of info on SP here.