The BIG sleep paralysis and old hag topic Part III

Is it scary? Not really. It’s strange the first time, and if you don’t know what SP is, I suppose it would be much scarier. After that, people tend to get used to it, and some people enjoy being in SP.

As for if it helps in LD’ing, definitely for WILD.

I’ve learned that SP can be extremely subtle and I’m sure you’ve experienced it without knowing. Just getting a floaty feeling (knowing you’re about to enter a dream) is SP.

Am I right? I’ve been having so many subtle SPs where I jerk myself out of it because I just can’t seem to let myself go, if you know what I mean, like the SP is slightly scary. I just couldn’t help it the past few times :cry:

Hmm. I’ve never had SP light that. Usually, you’ll know it like you’ll know if a train hits ya. But I guess everyone’s different.

Anyway, you’ve had the SP a few times. You know what it feels like, and you know that nothing can harm you (even explosions going off near your left ear nearly making you deaf), even if it seems real (my hearing was fine when I got downstairs this morning). Proof? Nothing has harmed you thus far while in SP for the years you’ve been alive, or even while you’ve experienced it awake, for that matter. Just relax and don’t worry about it. :wink:

Hopefully I’ll be able to remember that whenever I experience SP. :cool:

I’ve never had it though. Why do some people experience SP and some people don’t in their entire lives? :confused:

I don’t really know what a WILD is, but I had a dream just like the one you said: a strange woman leaning over my head and doing something to my brain, and all the while, my body was paralyzed. I woke up and screamed of fear =$

Bodomaster, that’s cool. I think the first few times with SP is always the freakiest. But once you know what SP is, you’ll grow out of having the scariest SP experiences. That’s what happened in my case.

I’m having old hag dreams like almost every day now sometimes several in one night, I guess I sleep on my back more, cause I’m allways on my back when it happens. I did the pinch the nose reality check often and I am in fact dreaming/in my dreambody when it happens. There’s usually someone beside my bed now, and what’s worse they started touching me, sometimes choking, sometimes hurting. Sometimes it’s a cat. I’m getting worked up about this. It keeps happening. Any ideas how to get rid of them, or wake up earlier? The fact that I know I’m dreaming doesn’t really make it less unpleasant.

I wish I had some advice on that but sadly I have no experience but I do want to learn how to induce it. So far I have no memory of SP ever happening to me or anyone in my family, so what can someone with no history of SP or much knowledge on how it happens other than being still and usually on you back do?

Did you recently change something in your sleep schedule, SouljahdeShiva?

I had woken up, and felt the sensation of something kissing me. Upon opening my eyes, it stayed, and I saw the very faint outline of a person directly on top of me (mostly its eyes which were more or less dark grey spots), along with the usual pressure on my body and whatnot. Lasted for maybe 30 seconds. I believe that’s the only time it happened.

Hmm… I had a similar experience, I was really freaked out for a while and that’s all I can recall from it.

I only ever had SP once, and instead of an Old Hag it was a rabbit hopping ontop of me. It still scared me though, as I didn’t know what it was back then.

I’ve had a couple Old Hag dreams but I LOVED them! Mostly I don’t realize that I’m in SP because I don’t actually try to move. I’m so busy watching the Old Hag that I just freeze. The first couple times I just saw a dark shadowy thing, it didn’t try to strangle me, it didn’t move much. The next one or two had blue hands reaching for me, a little creepier. It was very VERY real feeling, like a ‘whoah, I’m seeing a ghost!’ kind of ‘wow’ feeling.

The most recent one was the best. I was laying on my back in bed waiting for my partner to get out of the bathroom and come to bed too. Then I realized that in the corner of the ceiling of the bedroom was a long-limbed blue monster (monsterfeets has one in her gallery that’s white but looks VERY similar), lots of spidery legs and the face was long and animalistic. A little furry but not shaggy. It started moving across the wall towards me. My partner turned off the bathroom light/walked into the room and I woke up but it was like a blink… all the scenery had been EXACTLY the same, I didn’t even feel like I was waking up it was more like the monster just disapeared than anything else.

So in SP, you eyes are acually open, right?

Thank you and goodnight.

You know…I have never ever experienced SP while I was concious, and whenever I try, it never seems to prove successful. I’ve only had it once in a dream, and I woke up, and nothing really :sad: Any ideas how I can actually experience this? :smile:

had a couple of SP’s. No old hag to be seen. First time was sort of scary, but then i read about what happens (in a book about OBE) and it doesn’t scare me anymore.

It is suggested there are evil entities out there. But i thiink its an ego of yourself doing its thing. I found this to be the best explanation and cure:
lucidcrossroads.co.uk/guide.htm

Is it possible to get a partial case of SP? I’ve never experienced real SP, but on rare occasions I wake up and find that my muscles are weak. This lasts for maybe 5-10 minutes. I was wondering if it could be related to SP. It hasn’t happened lately, but I recall that something would feel off as I got out of bed… then I would usually try to make a fist, and find that I could make only a weak fist. Usually I get up, walk into another room (dragging my feet since I feel like my legs barely have the strength to walk at all), then sit in a chair until it goes away. During this time, my body (arms and legs especially) feels heavy, but I can still move if I want to. Then it goes away after a while…

So, I was curious as to whether this could be related to SP. It doesn’t really bother me; it’s just weird when you have to put a lot of effort into opening a door. :tongue:

@xx521xx:
sound nothing like SP. When SP you realkly can not move at all until you have completely snapped back into your body.
I would suggest you go see a doctor.

I know. :wink: I was just thinking that since SP/REM atonia is caused by chemical changes, some but not all of these changes could perhaps be carried over into a waking state, thus causing weakness instead of full paralysis…? I don’t really think it could be a medical condition, it happens so rarely… I can only remember 2 specific instances in my lifetime. I haven’t had it in at least a year. Probably 2 years. :shrug: If it happened every morning or during the day, I might be concerned, but…

I got a question! :smile:

Usually, in my dream, when something really scary or bad happens, I realise that I’m dreaming (it’s the only thing that has made me lucid so far). This is always quite a relief, and I exit the nightmare automatically. Well, usually. Because sometimes, I just can’t. Then I’m unable to move or do anything, I’m literally stuck in my nightmare!

Good thing it doesn’t last too long, but it’s freaky nonetheless. Last time I didn’t know in what position I was laying for a while, and had to try really hard to figure that out before I could move appropriately.

Is this SP, or some kind of delayed return to my awake state? Is there perhaps a way to make a lucid dream out of this? It’s the only time I may the time to do something while realising I was dreaming… :meh: