The Big WILD Topic - Part XVIII

Thanks don, that makes more sense. I thought HI was supposed to consist of images that only last a few seconds, but maybe I was mistaken? Now that you mention it, I think I tried rolling in one attempt, but it didn’t work. I’ll try sinking or floating if I ever get that far again… :neutral:

Hey everyone. I wanted to ask you guys for advice when WILDing. I WILD all the time, and i have been successful twice. Everytime i WILD i get really close…the thing that confuses me is the fact that whenever i am close, i can ‘see’ with my eyes, as though they are open. Does anyone else get that? what happens afterwards…

Thanks anyway.

What happens afterwards is that what you are seeing becomes your vision in the dream. Once you are inside and solidified yourself in the dreamworld, you get up, you look around, and go on your merry way.

i am very good at maintaining passive conscious awareness while going into theta brainwave states, but i have a few small roadblocks
-when i go into the theta, instead of falling asleep (even though theta is sleep) i just snap back awake after a period of passive HH experiences, usually not too intricate, usually thought oriented.
-i will spend a very long time going in and out of this state and eventually i just want to roll over and go to “bed” the “normal” way but this disrupts my intent to WILD.
-while in theta i may even experience hallucinations detailed enough that they could turn into dreams, but my conscoiusness does not allow for it as i am more awake than asleep, and the HH only last a few moments.
-it may take hours of going into induced theta to dream, such as if i intend to take a nap, it takes a lot and lot and lot of time of this before i finally “fall asleep” and then dream.

it seems as if i do not produce enough alpha waves.

how can i will myself to fall asleep while zoning out, instead of coming back up awake…? i’m thinking of trying some brainwave entrainment.

I am not so sure about the brainwaves, but I have the same problem. I can get into LD’s, but often I kind of surf over the edge of the dream state. I start into a dream, then pop back up into an awake, but relaxed state. I can then go back through HI down to a dream, then pop back up again. I just keep at it, and have had some short LD’s. If I knew a way past this, I would tell you :bored: but I am also still stuck here most of the time with WILD. don

I think I worded my question wrong. Redo!

It takes 2 (or so) hours to get to REM right? I you do WILD do you have to keep your mind awake for 2 (or so) hours until REM comes, or will REM come faster or slower?

You can dream in non-REM sleep, but the likelihood of you remembering it, or it being of a high vivid quality is substantially lower than if you dream in REM sleep.

Therefore WILD is much easier, and better, to perform in the morning just after waking up, or after a nap in which you did dream.

In the beginning of the night it is quite difficult to WILD because we initially enter delta sleep in which very little dream content is reported. However, as the night goes on we stop entering delta and have REM periods of 60+ minutes.
Thus it is much easier to WILD at the end of the night because you fall asleep much quicker and have a much higher chance of dreaming and remembering it.

Was this a WILD?
I was asleep and the next thing i knew i was in a place i have never been and i knew i was dreaming because i walked through a wall…
If it is… i don’t know what I did it have it…
i just ate a sandwich, a banana, and a few drinks of tea.
I went to bed then… and the second i entered the dream I knew…
odd :wiske:

If you fell asleep normally before finding yourself in a dream, I don’t think it was really WILD. WILD involves remaining concious as you fall asleep, so you should remain concious from the time you lay down until you find yourself dreaming. If you simply fell asleep as usual but knew you were dreaming as soon as a dream started, it sounds more like a spontaneous DILD. :smile:

ohhh cool I wanna have more of those =p
but i don’t think it’s a good idea to realy on that im going for a WILD tonight :peek:

Okay, now my question is answered. Thank you all muchly

Okay, recently I´ve been having some succes with WILD, I manage to stay awake. I don´t get any HI, but yesterday I had the vibrations and numbness for about 10 sec or so. then I had it again after a couple of minutes, but much more intense and longer, my mucsles got tense, heartrate incresed and I breathed kinda weird. I tried to keep focused and imagine that I was falling through my bed, then all of a sudden all senses kinda vanished, and i didn´t feel my body. It felt as I could open my dream eyes. but then i got more awake.

What should i think on?? did I concentrate to much? Can I get many chanses of this thing, or am i screwed if I fail the first time? and what about audio and HI, should they also come, or are they not neccecary??

Your definitley not screwed if you fail the first time, although it is certainly possible to get frustrated.

Your not always going to have all senses when you do WILD, sometimes only have HI, however most of the time there ar other senses involved. These senses that you feel are the sensations of your body going to sleep.

I would say that you were very close to LD because your descriptions of the things you felt are almost a perfect match for what happens as a person enters REM sleep.

Good Luck

I support that - you’re indeed close to LD.
Keep up! :smile:

I’ve made abit of progress in WILD lately, but I just have to fine tune WBTB. Im praying that it’ll work for me tonight! crosses fingers :peek:

Hi all. I have a problem with WILD. For about a week now I’ve tried doing WILD each night, but each time the same thing happens.
First I lie down and start counting (1 im dreaming 2 im dreaming etc). After a while I feel numb and I feel slightly dizzy. After another while I feel a sharp pain in my head as if someone’s hammering a nail in it and I hear strange noises. After another while I feel really dizzy and I feel like I’m falling. Then I usually get up to stop the dizzyness. I usually repeat it about twice anight before I give up and just sleep normally.
Any help?

(BTW W00t first post!!)

Hey, Alph! When you get the chance, introduce yourself in the Gathering! :smile:

Anyway, have you tried to just let the weird stuff happen? I mean, try not to get up, because usually dizzyness and strange noises are a sign of getting close to a WILD. Strange noises, especially, because those are probably HH.

The dizzyness and falling are also probably HH. The nail in the head is also probably HH, but it sounds bad. I don’t know what you can do about that. If it is so bad that you can’t remain relaxed and keep going, then you might have problems with WILD. You can also try it a few times and see if it goes away, some things do go away after a while.
don

Thanks for the help. :smile:

The nail in the head isn’t that sore, but it feels like a nail or something except for the searing pain. It’s just the dizzyness that gets really bad after a while. I’ll try again tonight and see if it goes better.