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PostPosted: Mon 06 Nov, 2006  Reply with quote

I honestly just let loose all my interset and knowledge in meditation over the past months. I don't know how or why, but lucid dreams just come to me now. Sort of like my desire to lucid dream and have a more peaceful mind was recognized by my subconscious.

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PostPosted: Sun 14 Jan, 2007  Reply with quote

There are a lot of different types and depths of meditation. I've combined a few different techniques that I have picked up into a sequence that I usually follow when I meditate. I'll describe it here in case anyone wants to try it out:

First I prepare my body for meditation by lying down and flexing each set of muscles individually while breathing in and then relaxing the muscle with exhalation. I start with my toes, then feet, then calves, et c. and end with exagerated facial expressions, like smiling really big and squenching my forhead.

Breathing should always come from your stomach before filling up the upper lungs and should be slow and full.

After this I usually do some leg stretches so I can slowly work into full lotus position. Then I sit up straight and focus my mind for meditation by practicing a type of meditation where you basically observe your thoughts. Instead of trying to repress your thoughts to clear your mind, what you do is listen to or observe your thoughts as they become conscious. Once you acknowledge a thought it will return to the void on its own. At first I would have fairly long trains of though before I noticed my mind had been wandering, so when this happened I would think back to the origin of that train and then the whole train of thought is seen and you start to learn about how you think and how much time you spend thinking about things that are really not worth thinking about. Eventually the thoughts will scarcify themselves and your mind will become much more clear throughout the day as well as directly following the meditation.

Once the mind is relatively clear I practice awareness meditation. The way I practice awareness meditation utilizes somatic memory, which is basically memory that is stored as bodily sensations. This stage of my meditation directs attention to different parts of the body waiting for different bodily sensations and when they happen, observing them. I usually start off this segment by focusing on the breath and its sensations because they are easy to start with. Then I will notice tremors or maybe heat on an area of the body or tingling sensations. Some of these will evoke somatic memories, which should be explored and connected with your explicit(biographical) memory. If a sensation isn't directly attached to some memory it is best to feel the sensation fully and try to expand your attention to areas surrounding it. Eventually this can lead to being aware of your entire body at once and even being aware of your subtle body.

After sustaining bodily awareness for a while I somtimes expand to environment awareness. This involves listening to the sounds happening all around you as well as being aware of any changes happening in the light on your eyelids, et c. Other times I will go into meditating on the chakras instead of environment awareness. I won't go into chakras because it's a pretty extensive topic. There is plenty of information online and in books however if you are more interested in them.

Hopefully some of that was helpful to someone and sorry about the lengthiness.


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PostPosted: Mon 15 Jan, 2007  Reply with quote

hi :D
so anyone can help me? :D

i am not very newbie to meditation...

i think i dont want to meditate, despite its totaly awsome... :D

i fear that if i meditate i will loose many many things:
habits, ye, sadblauw bad habits and so on... stupid tv, and i wont waste time to pc, and games, and doing nonsence...

what could you suggest?


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PostPosted: Tue 16 Jan, 2007  Reply with quote

oh... so no one wants to answer me, and i registered just for this question.. sadblauw
no one met similar experience and fear to loose something ? or no one meditates?


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PostPosted: Tue 16 Jan, 2007  Reply with quote

hey okay7, give it some time wink5

also your question isn't very clear, what exactly do you want to know?

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PostPosted: Tue 16 Jan, 2007  Reply with quote

okay7 i am not sure what you mean at all

you don't want to lose bad habits? When you meditate it does not dramatically force you to go "oh now i will never ever watch tv again" it will just naturally make you aware and mindful of what television does to your brain so you can learn on your own and think for yourself. instead of letting other people control your life, which they do.

so then the deicsion will be yours if you want to quit tv or not.

it is an upward hill to incredible peace that is depdenent upon no condition. it is just peace and it is there for you to enjoy. there is no reason NOT to meditate...

why are you afraid of losing bad habits? This is the one very single reason people meditate, so they can be happier, and bad habits do not make you happy. Most all of existence makes us suffer becuase we are ignorant of how to use our minds and how to spend our time, so we are sucked into activities that drain us and make us very unhappy and bored and incapable of feeling peace and joy.

if you meditate a lot it will just make you more mindful and rational and sane and normal and happy and then that will change your habits but, you are the one making the decisions for yourself.

it is like all your life a crazy rabbit has been yelling in your ears and you get so used to it you never hear the noise. then one day you shut the rabbit up and can finally think clearly and make your own decisions again.


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PostPosted: Wed 17 Jan, 2007  Reply with quote

thanks for big reply holy reality

just i have feeling that i will loose it... also i must take more time to know the mind, feelings...


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PostPosted: Thu 25 Jan, 2007  Reply with quote

Meditaion is defenitly good to work on. I tried it for about a week, and seemed to reach initial enlightenment and it's pretty sweet. the practice also makes WILD easy- atleast the concentration part.

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PostPosted: Mon 29 Jan, 2007  Reply with quote

initial enlightenment... :D lol duude no wai..
there is no initial enlightenment... no second enlightenment... no third... either you are, or you are not.


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PostPosted: Mon 29 Jan, 2007  Reply with quote

lol- i got my info from wikipedia

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PostPosted: Mon 29 Jan, 2007  Reply with quote

so wikipedia maybe wrong... smile

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PostPosted: Tue 30 Jan, 2007  Reply with quote

probaly. you can just go and edit anything you want on it- thats what wiki means.

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PostPosted: Tue 10 Apr, 2007  Reply with quote

Hey there smile
I don't see meditation as a way to attain lucidity, it's more like a lifestyle, a discipline to keep you aware (In everyday life, and while sleeping). The point of meditation is not sitting still and concetraiting (This is called concentration or relaxation) but to be in a meditating state all day long -Simply beeing one with life and everything surrounding you-. You can be in meditation without sitting still at all.
Once you are in meditation, you will see your LD increase (Because you will allways be aware) , and you will have more and more psychic abilities. You'll also realise that what we call physicall reality is in fact a deeper dream that we create. But that's not the point. These are the side effects to show you that you're becoming aware.
The techniques that could induct LD that you've been talking about are concentration and relaxation. It's for me a verry effective technique. I had my first LD ever after a relaxation, it was an amazing, peaceful dream. It also improves your dream recall and make you feel better in every day life. It doesn't work everytime thaugh but it's worth a try smile
Peace.


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PostPosted: Sun 15 Apr, 2007  Reply with quote

Empty-mind or relaxation meditation never changed any of my dreaming, lucid or otherwise. I tried alpha / theta wave feedback and it didn't change my dreaming either.

But, I guess if you try concentration meditation, with a common dreamsign as a focal point, that might improve the chances of LDing.


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PostPosted: Sat 05 May, 2007  Reply with quote

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Empty-mind or relaxation meditation never changed any of my dreaming, lucid or otherwise.


same here.
I can do empty-minded pretty good, but how could I use this to become lucid from a dream, or LD some other way?


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