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Posts: 10415 Joined: 05 May 2002 Last Visit: 18 Jun 2013
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Posted: Thu 16 Nov, 2006 |
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good idea sandra (mindreader). I was thinking of doing something with 'ask a DC a question' but then i thought: no, that's also the experiment, how can i solve that, and now you come with this idea, i like it!
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Posts: 444 Joined: 24 Jul 2006 Last Visit: 16 Feb 2010
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Posted: Fri 17 Nov, 2006 |
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I was going to suggest another quest/experiment combo.
Anyone who's on the Lucidity Institute's mailing list will have gotten an email with this in it:
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LUCID DREAMING: A MEANS OF ENHANCING EMPATHY?
FINDING OUT WHAT IT'S LIKE TO BE SOMEBODY ELSE
One of the most interesting explorations offered by lucid dreaming is the phenomenology of embodiment and various forms of subjective relationships between "self" and "other." As Alan Wallace has emphasized, when we dream non-lucidly our relationship with dream figures is intersubjective, i.e., as if they exist separately from the self. But in lucid dreams one can enter into an intrasubjective relationship to other dream figures by understanding that "self" and "other" are two as-if constructions within a single mind.
The late Paul Tholey has described a number of fascinating accounts in which lucid dreamers enter the bodies of other dream characters via a mobile "ego-core." The ego-core is defined by Tholey as that location in the phenomenal field from which one seems to experience the world. It is usually localized within the phenomenal body, typically at the experienced origin of the visual field, the "cyclopean eye." It is possible to liberate this ego-core from its usual location within the phenomenal body by a variety of means (e.g., destroying the dream body by fire, splitting, etc.) and then to enter into the body of another dream character, apparently "taking control" of that host body.
One might expect that entering deeply into the being of another in such a manner ought to have considerable potential for enhancing empathy, and Tholey cites at least one case in which a lucid dream of this sort had exactly the expected effect. |
To do a quest about embodying others would not only be interesting, but then whoever completes it can send in dream reports to the lucidity institute and help out Stephen LaBerge.
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Posts: 516 Joined: 25 Sep 2006 Last Visit: 15 Feb 2013
LD count: Thrice a week
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Posted: Fri 17 Nov, 2006 |
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Quest suggestion
Turn yourself into a tree, or a flower. Feel your roots, your leaves, your stem. Watch the life of the normal pass before your plant-eyes as you stay rooted to the ground just observing the people.
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Posts: 2735 Joined: 30 Jul 2005 Last Visit: 15 Jun 2013
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Posted: Thu 23 Nov, 2006 |
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Quest Suggestion
Change your feelings
Make yourself feel
very Happy
that everything is funny (so that you can't stop laugh because everything is so fun)
very peaceful
that everything is very exciting/interesting(so that you would feel that all normal boring thins is going to be interesting/exciting)
I don't know how to change your feeling but you are not allowed to change the environment just your own feelings to get a enhanced feeling of happiness for example,
Maybe you can drink some magic potion from a Wizard and expect to feel very happy afterwards.
Of course you can also do this with negative feelings like anger but I suggest you do it with positive feelings
Current LD goal(s): Play chess on the moon :), transform into a guinea pig
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Posts: 444 Joined: 24 Jul 2006 Last Visit: 16 Feb 2010
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Posted: Fri 24 Nov, 2006 |
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Oooh, I really really love that idea, Magnus! We're always changing "physical" things in dreams. Why not emotional things too? You could even have your emotion represented by a physical thing, or try out feeling exactly how someone else feels.
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Posts: 836 Joined: 09 Apr 2006 Last Visit: 03 Apr 2010
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Posted: Thu 07 Dec, 2006 |
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i just had a good idea. Ask someone to take you to 'Lucid School'. Like Driving school, except you practice your lucidity and get beter. It will boost your moral, and will definitley be entertaining.
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Posts: 663 Joined: 01 Jun 2006 Last Visit: 01 Jun 2008
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Posted: Sat 09 Dec, 2006 |
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Quest suggestion
Prepare, and beat your fear. Idea from Python Angel's dream. Diffrence was in quest before fighting with fear, you have to prepare to it. Get a sword, a gun, summon a ginat flame thowing duck, Find somebody who will can help you to beat it. Then ask for your biggest fear, and fight it.
wait a second, this one is hard, if something fails, there might be a fearful nightmare..
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Posts: 444 Joined: 24 Jul 2006 Last Visit: 16 Feb 2010
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Posted: Mon 11 Dec, 2006 |
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hehehe, we don't want to tramautize half of LD4all because of terrible nightmares =]
But that Idea gave me one! Find the Mirror of Erised (it shows your heart's greatest desire,) and see what it shows you. Then go through it!
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Posts: 10415 Joined: 05 May 2002 Last Visit: 18 Jun 2013
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Posted: Mon 11 Dec, 2006 |
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I believe magnus already suggested that one earlier
The next Quest write up is a bit delayed, i hope to write it tomorrow, thank's for your patience.
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Posts: 753 Joined: 17 Nov 2005 Last Visit: 18 Jun 2008
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Posted: Mon 11 Dec, 2006 |
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What abut finding the name of your dream world.
Ask a DC or someting: "What is the name of this world?".
And then you have a name for youre dream world
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Posts: 2735 Joined: 30 Jul 2005 Last Visit: 15 Jun 2013
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Posted: Tue 19 Dec, 2006 |
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Yep, I suggested the mirror of Erised once but I never suggested to go trough it, nice idea Vi
I have a new suggestion, and hope noone has mentioned this before
Talk to a Wall
well, talk to anything that normally doesn't talk and expect it to communicate with you and see what results you get.
you can talk to
Walls
Stones
Trees
Lakes
Toys
clouds and so on.
Current LD goal(s): Play chess on the moon :), transform into a guinea pig
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Posts: 836 Joined: 09 Apr 2006 Last Visit: 03 Apr 2010
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Posted: Wed 20 Dec, 2006 |
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Ask someone to play your themesong as you enjoy yourself in Lucid World
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Go to a Lucid Mall, which has all kinds of Lucid Gadgets to help you do many diffrent things. There are items such as jetpacks, attach-on wings, Teleporting watch, a remote control that controls time, Lucid Cola, and MUCH more
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Posts: 238 Joined: 12 Aug 2006 Last Visit: 31 Oct 2010
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Posted: Wed 20 Dec, 2006 |
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Since pasQuale suggested it, I came up with a Quest idea!
Music! Turn on a stereo, put in your headphones, or teleport yourself to a live concert with your favourite band. Listen to the music, the lyrics, and see what kind of silly tricks your mind plays on you.
A task I'd love to complete ever since seeing Muse live. Music seems pretty rare in LDs as well.
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Posts: 2837 Joined: 08 Feb 2006 Last Visit: 17 Jun 2013
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Posted: Wed 20 Dec, 2006 |
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On the topic of music, try to get your DCs to start singing with you as in a musical or a movie. I want to sing the songs from Corpse Bride with some DCs sometime
More ideas:
- LEARN SOMETHING! I dunno if I have mentioned this already or not, but I believe it must be very interesting to try to learn something from a DC.
- Find your power animal(s).
- Give life to things that do not possess life. (NOT dead people/animals... I mean rocks, teddy bears, that sort of thing)
- Become an object. This can be mostly interesting, but maybe a bit boring, depending on the object. Become a rock! Too boring? Become a rolling stone
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Posts: 2837 Joined: 08 Feb 2006 Last Visit: 17 Jun 2013
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Posted: Wed 20 Dec, 2006 |
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i just had a good idea. Ask someone to take you to 'Lucid School'. Like Driving school, except you practice your lucidity and get beter. It will boost your moral, and will definitley be entertaining. |
Whoaaaaaa AWESOME idea! I gotta try this!
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