*Suggestability test: Make MILD/Auto-Suggestion Work for YOU

Vrathal · January 11, 2007, 11:40am

Guess I’m an E…I’ll try it out! Thanks a lot!

Also, please keep us updated on the mp3s.

Win_Laik_Pya · January 12, 2007, 3:22am

This just might work! im an e and ive been doing a lot of Ps so tonight ill try an e, lets see how it goes!

Duck · January 12, 2007, 4:46pm

… is any non-e on that forum ?

Interesting anyways. as P seems to be more influenced by straight words, E persons are more to well-descripted action sentences

Vi · January 13, 2007, 1:00am

Duck - I’m a P! It’s split up 50-50 in normal circumstances, but perhaps Es are more lucid dreamers. Or, more likely, the Ps didn’t bother replying because they get to keep doin what they’re doin.

Good luck, everyone!

wissam · January 21, 2007, 6:36pm

I’m a P…the funny thing is i was hoping that i would be an E. I feel i am much more of an emotional person and stuff.

The funny thing is, i used to use all the P questions and got everything well. I tried using E for a while and i’ve been failing for quite a while at getting an LD.

Great stuff Vi! Thank you for sharing this with us.
(I don’t know if this is supposed to happen, but i absoloutley cannot MILD)

FireKirby · January 22, 2007, 7:10am

I’m open to these ideas as all else has failed for me =/ -will try this tonight-

Sen · January 22, 2007, 9:27am

Oh yeah!

I’m a ‘E’ person, but all I’ve been using is the way to trick yourself as an ‘P’ person. I’d really like to give this a try! I’ll keep you guys up-dated!

FireKirby · January 22, 2007, 6:47pm

Ok, so nothing happened… for the night at least. About a hour ago I was normally trying to fall asleep, only difference is the TV was on. So that kept a spark of awareness within me. As I drifted off… I remember my thoughts being more life-like images, they faded away. So I continued in bed when I feel this rocking motion (side to side) so I went along with this. As I concentrated on the motion… at a point I went all the way to the right and found myself ‘feeling’ facing the opposite way (impossible since I was not facing that way? xD). I tried going to the right all the way but something kept my head from moving… When I was in this state, I could not only hear my TV but other things as well. Not sure what they were… sounded like it was coming from the outside Since I couldn’t do anything else… I tried moving my hand (physical I guess) but had no response, actually more of a delayed response because it took a while for it to move

Anyone know what happened?

wissam · January 22, 2007, 6:54pm

you were WILD-ing. In other words, you were falling asleep while you were still conscious. When you WILD, you get three types of HI :

Visual HH - you see pictures and images floating by

Acoustic HH - you hear weird noises

Semantic HH - you get weird feelings.

All that happens normally when you sleep, except you lose consciousness. When you say you had a delayed response, it was because as you sleep, at one point your brain shuts down all connections to your body. This is called SP. You were either ‘reaching’ that part, or you were experiencing SP, and then you had awoken.

In other words, you were very close to an dream where you would have been lucid from the start. Why don’t you try WILD-ing purposely, seeing as you got good results from the beginning. I’m glad to see you were relaxed and ‘you went along with it’. Go to the main website and read the information on WILD. You can also search for WILD topics on the forum.

Hoi · September 17, 2007, 2:03am

seems like the last one posted a long time ago…
i hope it’s not forbidden to post in here and well, i had 5 As and 5 Bs, meaning for me, this seems to be the best result

Basilus_West · September 17, 2007, 8:59pm

Hi Vi,

I just discovered this topic. I’m slightly E (6 vs 4). Direct autosuggestion worked rather good for me, indirect too (I’ve sometimes used the “find your hand” method). I’ve some questions:

how did you build the E autosuggestion sentences? I don’t understand exactly the principle. Please could you explain it precisely?
I would like to translate your post on the french forum cause it’s linked towards it in Sandra’s MILD FAQ. Please may I? You’ll be credited of the article, of course.

Bones · September 17, 2007, 9:12pm

I am a P (9-1), and I have been using the ones you have said (most of the time), it has worked and I think there is something to this.

Ysim · September 17, 2007, 11:36pm

I am barely a P. I guess that explains a lot. I usually use P autosuggestion, and they work only about half as well as I wish I’ll have to try an E autosuggestion from time to time now.

MovieMe · September 17, 2007, 11:47pm

Uhm

A = 5
B = 5

Why will these things never work for me?! :´(

The_Mad_Hatter · September 18, 2007, 12:26am

I’m a P by a small margin (6-4)

MILD works for me fairly well, but not for actually inducing dreams.That is to say it works, but not that often. Vi, perhaps you could link us to the original test to help some of the people (including me) who are on the fence find if they are more one way or anther. After all, a 10 question test leaves some considerable gaps.

Thanks,

-Hatter

Arabinator · September 19, 2007, 7:50pm

I’m an E, and i got a lot of b’s.

Even just reading the suggested sentences make SO much more sense to me!

I’ll try it out!

Hoi · September 20, 2007, 7:46pm

i think this is the best result

and seems like i revived this thread

SuibaRher · September 24, 2007, 1:31am

I knew it, i have 5 As and 5 Bs, so I’m neither E nor P…

I should have already known as I realized that some of the questions were not easy to answer for me and I wished to select a “C” ^^

EDIT: OMG, did not log in a lot of time… and from my signature I see I had more lucid dreams in the first two months of 2006 than I had this whole year 2007!!

Scarecrow · September 24, 2007, 2:00am

Vi:

I took a course in hypnosis, and one of the most important things in making hypnotic suggestions work is wording them the right way depending on the type of person you are hypnotizing. Well, the same concept can be used for autosuggestion and MILD techniques!

To find out how to word your autosuggestions, you need to find out if you are an E (emotional-suggestable) or a P (physical-suggestable). Here is a shorter version of the suggestability test I’ve adapted from the original by John Kappas:

1. You…
A) are comfortable expressing your emotions.
B) would rather keep your emotions to yourself.

2. When discussing something interesting…
A) You often stare directly into a person’s eyes and get close.
B) You’d prefer to keep a civilized distance and find yourself looking elsewhere.

3. When in a group of unfamiliar people…
A) Your movements are carefree and casual.
B) You know they are looking, so you guard your movements.

4. You learn better by…
A) Seeing or Reading
B) Hearing[b]

In a new class or lecture, you…[/b]
A) Are comfortable asking questions.
B) Let the others ask any questions.
[b]

You prefer reading…[/b]
A) Fiction
B) Non-Fiction
[b]

You think children are…[/b]
A) Great to be around, all the time.
B) Preferably avoidable.
[b]

When expressing ideas, you…[/b]
A) Tell all the related details, so you’re sure you’ll be understood.
B) Get right to the point.
[b]

When you do a great job on a school project, you’d rather be…[/b]
A) complimented in front of the class.
B) privately complimented.
[b]

You empathise and feel more strongly when someone describes to you…[/b]
A) The terrible pain of their skiing accident when they slammed face-first into a tree, shattering their collar-bone.
B) The terrible pain when their parter left them without explanation, and refuses to speak to them.

Now, add up your As and Bs. More As mean you’re a P, and more Bs mean you’re an E. If you’re equal or close to it, you can probably take either suggestion type, or try both and see what works.

If you are a P, the normal direct suggestions should work:

I WILL have a lucid dream.

I will remember my dreams.

I will wake up after each dream I have.

I will remember to realize I’m dreaming.

If you are an E, you might like to try one or more of the following (but NOT combined with literal suggestions. Stick only to ones on this list to be safe.):

In my lucid dream, I will fly (or whatever your goal is).

In the morning, I can write down all of my dreams.
- I will become lucid any time in the night my mind chooses.

And don’t forget to combine with visualizations of becoming lucid!

So! What do you think? What are your results? Are there a lot of Es out there who have tried MILD unsuccessfully because it uses literal suggestions meant for Ps? Any other questions or confusions? Any other auto-suggestions you’d like me to make an E version of?

I was thinking of also making a pair of induction mp3s, one for Ps and one for Es, where I could really use the suggestive distinction and my hypnotist skills to make an induction that is significantly more effective than the ones meant for everyone.

Im an E and a P, Auto suggestion works fine for me, and i also, 90% of my LD’s were DILD s and i used DS. so i don’t rely on auto suggestion but this is still cool.

Vi · September 24, 2007, 8:24pm

I haven’t been around in a while, but as the topic has been raised from the dead I thought I’d come clarify some things.

E and P stand for “emotional” and “physical,” but if you’re an E it doesn’t mean you’re more or less emotional than a P. The names are derived from something else.

If you’re a P, you take direct literal suggestions. Ps tend to take things literally, and talk more figuratively with metaphors and implied statements.

An E listens for the hidden meaning behind a statement, taking it not at face value but looking for what it “really” means, while they tend to speak more directly and literally.

The two types account for a lot of miscommunication. Take the broadest of examples: “Hey, wanna go grab lunch?” The P thinks “ooh, I’m hungry. Yes!” the E thinks “hmm, this person wants to spend time with me. They must like me!”

So for a P literal suggestions work because the P takes them literally. An E will take something like “I will lucid dream tonight” and interpret it perhaps as really meaning “I want to lucid dream tonight, I hope I do!” which isn’t a strong suggestion to them.

So, for an E, a statement like “I will remember my lucid dreams in the morning” has an implied fact: that they will have lucid dreams to remember. Meanwhile, a P might think “but what if I don’t have any?”

Some more implied suggestions (and visualize these too):

“I will be more lucid than usual tonight” (implying you are usually quite lucid!)
“I love when I have lucid dreams.” (not IF I have, WHEN I have.)
“After I become lucid, I will…”
“I will write down and remember my LDs in the morning”
“I can’t wait to tell X about the lucid dream I’ll have tonight”

I hope this helps clear things up a little! Also, I know some of you are on the fence with this one. Part of it is that it’s hard to concretely test these things with a multiple choice test! The original test is not online and I’m not sure how legal it would be for me to upload it. People who are truly in the middle are called “somnambulists” (yeah I know) and are open to both types of suggestions, so try one type one night and the other the next and see how many LDs you have.

Here’s an experiment in implied milding…
“I will become lucid, I will become lucid a second time, I will become lucid a third time, I will become lucid a fourth time, I will become lucid a fifth time…”
Because each number implies and reinforces the earlier ones. Much cooler than counting yourself to sleep!