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Bright_Eyes_Rocks
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PostPosted: Fri 03 Nov, 2006  Reply with quote

Cherriey wrote:
What is this? I haven't heard anything about it.

It would be nice if it ended... maybe a good explosion or some intergalactic leeches...

Are you NUTS??? This would be terrible. If anyone thinks it should end then they should. Sorry but this is not right. No one should think the world should end.


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PostPosted: Fri 03 Nov, 2006  Reply with quote

I don't think that saying that the world will end make any sense, but the Earth could be smashed by the comet, that probably wont destroy the Earth, but will kill a lot of people. Sometimes I think that could be better if the humanity is destroyed, that will end much stupid or bad human conduct that cause suffering; sometimes I have more hopes in a change in humanity.

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PostPosted: Sat 04 Nov, 2006  Reply with quote

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The end of the 13th b'ak'tun is conjectured to have been of great significance to the Maya, but does not necessarily mark the end of the world according to their beliefs, but a new beginning or time of re-birth. According to the Popol Vuh, a book compiling details of creation accounts known to the Quiché Maya of the colonial-era highlands, we are living in the fourth world. The Popol Vuh describes the first three creations that the gods failed in making and the creation of the successful fourth world where men were placed. The Maya believed that the fourth world would end in catastrophe and the fifth and final world would be created that would signal the end of mankind.

The last creation ended on a long count of 13.0.0.0.0. Another 13.0.0.0.0 will occur on December 21, 2012, and it has been discussed in many New Age articles and books that this will be the end of this creation or something else entirely. However, the Maya abbreviated their long counts to just the last five vigesimal places. There were an infinite number of larger units that were usually not shown. When the larger units were shown (notably on a monument from Coba), the end of the last creation is expressed as 13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13 .13.13.0.0.0.0, where the units are obviously supposed to be 13s in all larger places. In this age we are only approaching 0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.13.0.0.0.0, and the larger places are nowhere near the 13s that would match the end of the last creation. (Schele and Friedel 1990: 430)

This is confirmed by a date from Palenque, which projects forward in time to 1.0.0.0.0.0, which will occur on October 13, 4772 (a Friday). The Classic Period Maya likely did not believe that the end of this age would occur in 2012. According to the Maya, there will be a baktun ending in 2012, a significant event being the end of a 13th 400 year period, but not the end of the world.


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PostPosted: Sat 04 Nov, 2006  Reply with quote

Infinitycascade wrote:
Well comets orbit the sun generally. I think we know about most of them. It's the asteroids in the belt between jupiter and mars that are a problem but do I think the world will end in 2012?

No...


Actually I would worry about the comets more than the asteroids. There are billions of comets shooting all over our little piece of known space(most of them do not posess any linear path, especially not an orbit around our sun) , these chunks of ice are travelling with enough velocity and mass to easily destroy earth. Now the asteroids are given more publicity, but in reality the asteroids(in the belt) are spread so far apart that you could fly right through the thickest concentration of them and not hope to come within tens of thousands of miles of one.

On the other hand I absolutely agree with your opinion that the world won't end in 2012. I've always believed that prophecies and scheduled end-of-the-world scenarios are a bunch of bull, and I can't see how this is any different. From a scientific standpoint a calendar is merely a device synchronized with a repeating naturally occuring event in order to keep track of elapsed time(which is in itself completely relevent). So I would have to say that any theory that claims that this calendar is some kind of doomsday countdown, doesn't have any scientific grounds to support it. Now I've always kept an open mind..but you shouldn't keep such an open mind that you can see daylight on the other side(if you catch my drift..). Just my .02. geenidee


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PostPosted: Mon 29 Jan, 2007  Reply with quote

7Regrets wrote:
2012. Sounds about right.

I've always had dreams that 6 years from now a comet will come for Earth. If it makes you guys feel better, I never saw the comet hit Earth in my dreams. The comet just heads for Earth. In one of those dreams, I saw a giant hand stop the comet.

you know, it odd you should say that. Acording to sone weird thing I hear about 2 years ago, some planet's moon will eventually colide with the earth and whipe out two thirds of life. it is funny you saw a giant hand blocking it, sounds alot like gods hand. I'll try to look into the future next time I LD.


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PostPosted: Mon 29 Jan, 2007  Reply with quote

I wouldn't worry about any comets or any other celestrial bodies hitting into us any time soon - if it were destined to wipe out life by 2012, we'd already know about it. Not by psychic powers or anything like that - we'd just see it in our telescopes already wink5.

I mean, we can see stars countless lightyears away. Any celestrial body large enough to wipe out life on Earth, we'd see coming many many many years in advance. So, that's one weight off your mind wink5.


I don't think life on Earth will be wiped out. Well, not until Earth itself, is destroyed/scorched raw by the sun. Life has this amazing ability to evolve and come back from countless different setbacks, and fitting in perfectly with the new conditions. You shouldn't underestimate it.


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PostPosted: Mon 29 Jan, 2007  Reply with quote

For God's sake... Why are there 7 different threads about this?

Fact is: Maya's say something big stuff is gonna happen on 2012, whether you take them serious or not is completely up to you since there is no actual proof to either back up it happening or not (apart from the fact that we've already lived through several of these sorts of days significant to other religions).


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PostPosted: Tue 30 Jan, 2007  Reply with quote

To be quite honest, I'm not too worried. After all, the world ended seven years ago, and I'm still alive smile.

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PostPosted: Tue 30 Jan, 2007  Reply with quote

Yeah, like cosmic powers would take notice of a slightly significant number in the gregorian calendar... Pfffft....

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PostPosted: Tue 30 Jan, 2007  Reply with quote

Orange Element wrote:
That might have happened during the Cold War, but it's not likely now, thank God. We should be more careful about the environment, though.


Did you know that the Doomsday Clock is currently set at five minutes to midnight?


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PostPosted: Tue 30 Jan, 2007  Reply with quote

Oh hell yae... There is so much going on right now, I can feel it, I dont know what it is, but Im telling you Im scared, and excited at the same time. Life is a trip. What do we do? I know the object of the game of life, is to expirance this amazing event without fear. Its like weve got to stay balanced. Dont drop of into hell, go into heaven without fear. The messages are out, Bible prophecy are coming true. September 11th. I dont know how to explaine my spiritual growth, but I think every thing will definatly be great. Dont you? Allso I dont think you can go wrong if you practice dreams, and LDs. This planet enlighnment only happens every 2600 years, that is very rare. Ive had dreams, about the end of time. I had a dream that I was standing out side of a Wendys resteraunt, and the begin blowing really hard, and it was braking up everything into sand, it was sand blasting everyone. I got to stop talking about this, or Ill want shut up, thats just how excited, I am about what is happaning in our lives.

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PostPosted: Tue 30 Jan, 2007  Reply with quote

I want proof that the end of the world will happen in the year 2012. I'm not outright denying it, but I'm saying with how long the world as we know it has been in existence, I believe it can survive another five years by inductive reasoning.

I'll entertain the idea, but I won't believe it until someone provides me an expert telling me why.


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PostPosted: Tue 30 Jan, 2007  Reply with quote

Ive wondored if it might be a conspiracy? I could say something about this, but its pretty scary.

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PostPosted: Tue 30 Jan, 2007  Reply with quote

Sureal wrote:

I mean, we can see stars countless lightyears away. Any celestrial body large enough to wipe out life on Earth, we'd see coming many many many years in advance. So, that's one weight off your mind wink5.



Actually I'd still worry , chances are we wouldn't know about any comets threatening the earth until we felt the ground shake beneath our feet and a bright light appeared in the distance(assuming you weren't in the blast radius or along the coast). Sure we can see lightyears into space, but what we can see is emitting light. Comets don't become visible until they are close enough to the sun that evaporation causes a gas/debris tail to emerge(scattering sunlight to become visible) and solar radiation has ionized the plasma tail(like a big flourescent bulb). By that time it's already at your doorstep(closer than jupiter if I remember), shortly thereafter...Poof. Speaking of which, jupiter will probably be the reason for a collision with earth, anything that passes close enough to it's gravitational field without being captured is given a gravity assist, sending it hurling like a bullet into an orbit that possibly intersects with earth's. Stupid jupiter. lekkerpuh

Anyways, most comets are discovered after the first time they pass through the planetary neighborhood, then we catalogue it and predict it's path. As if it weren't already hard enough to spot them, they only have to be a few miles wide to cause a global catastrophe, 5 or more miles and it's game over for earth.

Bleh, what a morbid topic(btw, sorry for the lecture, bad habit).. shutup


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PostPosted: Tue 30 Jan, 2007  Reply with quote

The last time a comet hit earth and actually caused any significant global reaction was 65 million years ago, considering the frequency of these things we'll probably be fine for at least a few million years.

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