when i tried VILD when first going to sleep, i lost my focus on the dream theme and ended wilding for the first time in my life… and when i try doing VILD when i wake up during the night i am to tired do focus at all, maybe for a minute or so… what do you think i should try working at? not wilding or staying focused with wbtb?
btw i havent had any lds yet, trying for two weeks now…
tnx!
To be decent at this you need to be able to VISUALISE well, and practise the visualisation every night to get it right. You need to keep it exactly the same too, which is really hard.
I did this one night (it was the first technique I tried! WOO for VILD!) and I inccubated this:
Me and a friend are standing (in a place in the playground in our school, but no point describing cause you lot wouldn’t know about it) and the weather is overcast, windy and seagulls are swooping aorund. Some dodgy geezers are walking straight toward us, they are about 100 metres away.
I do the nose RC and the hands one (check to see if hands are solid and have right amount of fingers). Then I say “get ready”.
What I dreamt:
I’m walking from the school to the place where I hang out at lunch. Some of the dodgy geezers are kicking a rugby ball at some people who are walking to hang aorund where I do. The weather is overcast and seagulls are swooping around (yeah!) and it is windy. One of the people pick up the rugby ball and kick it away.
And that was after one night of VILD! Just practice the same visualisation and you’ll get it!
@ chip9munk: you need to practice being focused. It’s hard at first but you’ll be able to do it before you know it!
Definitely trying this.
yeah, it’s awesome isn’t it? No sleep paralysis or anything!
I used to be able to choose what I wanted to dream about, just to visualise the setting. All I need to do is get that back, do some reality checks and away I go!
By the way, I’ve read that this works very well for some and very badly for others. Hope it works well for me, and for the rest of you for that matter!
Good luck everybody!
Definitely trying this! Gonna try this on going to sleep, and if it doesn’t work I’ll try a WBTB WILD later on.
Another good thing - no more need to WBTB !
Oh my god 8| all this has been out here on the internet for soon 3,5 years, and i haven’t looked at them before now.
Excellent way to describe! Feels so easy, and i’m definitly trying this method! =D
Trying this tonight! 
I have a feeling this tech. will either work very well for me, or not work at all. Either way, I’ll try it every night for about a week. If it doesn’t get me lucid, hopefully it will intensify my dreams!
I’m gonna start trying this right away!
I’ve always tried to think of a single topic before i fall asleep (or else my thoughts wonder to things however unlikly that could end the world and i can’t fall asleep) I’ve never tried thinking the same thing over and over though i’m going to try this for a couple weeks for a while it doesn’t seem to take much effort either.
This technique seems brilliant Gonna steal Pedro’s dream-situation 
Wish me luck 
good luck.
I need to get my dream recall up before attempting this again.
Could this be mixed with Autosuggetsion? I will dream about someone asking me to do a reality check (You imagine it happening)
Wow, this tech seems really good. I just wonder if anyone knows if it’s a good technique to start with? Anyone had their first LD with this one? I haven’t had any yet, haven’t been trying for too long though…
This seems good technique. I will start tomorrow night. (I don’t have a lamp beside my bed)
Hey there, this seems like a good technique to start out with, i was woundering, does it matter if i move around much? it can get really uncomfortable for me sometimes so i have to scratch an itch or move the covers so im not so hot, will this have an impact? Do i have to remain fairly still?
I once imagined a whole dream in my head before falling asleep and I saw exactly this dream so I think this technique might work for me, I will try it tonight. 
IT WORKS REALLY!!wow…sry i had to get that out of my system 
it works good with a sleep induction form hypnofiles.com! really! 
I do have a lamp now beside my bed. I’ll try this technique again sometime.
If anyone remembers Pedro’s first VILD I’m suprised it’s not the first topic on the list of the archives.
Pedro had 90-110 LDs/month, and only LaBerge was close to that and I believe that 4 lucid dreams EVERY night is pretty much the record. This makes me wonder if Pedro discovered one of the most optimal techniques?
Personally I don’t believe that some techniques work better than others for some people since this Pedro’s VILD combines both MILD and WILD-which Laberge first used.