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Seren1ty
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PostPosted: Sat 17 Mar, 2007  Reply with quote

Ionflux wrote:
Well, if you are used to sleeping with open eyes, then keeping them open when attempting WILD is alright wink5


Ahahaha, that made me lol XD


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PostPosted: Sat 17 Mar, 2007  Reply with quote

I actually used to be an open eye sleeper when i was younger, lol.

At one time i actually REALIZED i was falling asleep.
My eyes just shutted down without me wanting to and i entered a dream which i fully remember (my comp was threatening itself to blow up). The dream wasnt lucid though, and i didnt know anything about lucid dreaming either.

Is this considered as a sort of WILD?


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FireKirby
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PostPosted: Wed 21 Mar, 2007  Reply with quote

I've done plenty of progress ever since ld4all went unstable.. yay for me xD

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How to do WILD?
PostPosted: Thu 22 Mar, 2007  Reply with quote

OK .... i Know that ur supposed to go to sleep for about 4-6 hours then wake up for 2-4 mins and go back to bed,, now what?? whatsthat eh whatsthat


can some on eplease help me i would be very very thankfull shy2


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need help
PostPosted: Fri 23 Mar, 2007  Reply with quote

i am some what clear with WILD
but not very sure what is the easiest way
can u help me
whatsthat
like state some clear examples
in specific steps


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PostPosted: Fri 23 Mar, 2007  Reply with quote

Arabinator wrote:
At one time i actually REALIZED i was falling asleep. [...] The dream wasnt lucid though, and i didnt know anything about lucid dreaming either. Is this considered as a sort of WILD?

There are some contradictions in your terms. If you realized you were falling asleep, then there is a strong possibility that your dream was a little lucid (at least at its beginning). Thus it was a WILD. Now if you have realized that you were falling asleep before you dreamt, and the further dream was normal (though you remembered it very well when you woke up), it was not a LD, hence it cannot be a Wake Initiated LD.
pootohead wrote:
OK .... i Know that ur supposed to go to sleep for about 4-6 hours then wake up for 2-4 mins and go back to bed, now what??

Now practice a WILD method (for instance, counting or repeating a sentence until you feel you're floating, or you see strange images in front of your eyes, or hear curious noises, something like that. More explanations below.)
cooliza wrote:
i am some what clear with WILD but not very sure what is the easiest way

1) The easiest way is practising WILD with WBTB (what is said above: going to sleep for about 4-6 hours then waking up for some mins and going back to bed).
2) From this point, practice a WILD method. Here I can't say what will be easier for you, you have to find it alone. Some people fall asleep too quickly, it's better for them to use a "mental" method, i.e. a method that requires focusing on thoughts (like counting or repeating a sentence). Some people fall asleep too slowly, they have better to use a "physical" method, that is focusing on physical sensations (breathing, observing little fuzzy light dots in front of the eyes, hearing the tinitus - internal buzzing, hearing a clock ticking, etc.)
3) The goal of these methods is reaching the hypnagogic state, that is a state when you have strange sensations (seeing random 2D and 3D images, hearing noises, having floating or falling feelings). From the hypnagogic state, you can enter a LD. It's rather difficult to explain how. You can find some details in the LD4all LD'ing guide, section "How/WILD".


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coolliza
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some serious trouble
PostPosted: Fri 23 Mar, 2007  Reply with quote

i don't exactly know how serious but
most of the time i try wild it dosen't work
it worked only twice
can anyone offer some valueable tips
i can never do an RC i just simply cant
in some 6 months i got lucid only 3times
plz help help!
coolliza


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PostPosted: Fri 23 Mar, 2007  Reply with quote

if that's a serious problem then I'm ****ed.

Man, WILD takes loads of practice, plus you need to find the WILD method that's right for you With WILD, you need to be... I dunno, persistent? Determined?

But take it this way, you got farther than I have ever with WILD over six months. You are getting there.


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PostPosted: Fri 23 Mar, 2007  Reply with quote

Li10, you killed the topic.

(well, maybe there is just nothing more to say in it )

@coolliza
Keep on practising. You already had successful WILD twice, so you do know how to do it. Try to do same thing that this two times. Keep consciouness, do WILD at morning, after waking up.

You do RC's in dream when you have habit like that. You need to make 15-20 RC's at day to make a habit. Otherwise, you'll use RC's when you will notice that something is not right, so it could be a dream. Just to test out reality. It's also not wrong, but you have to remember that you can be dreaming everytime.

Dunno if it helps. Maybe you need to try out diffrent techs, MILD, Chaining (It's a bit simmilar to WILD, so it might be easier for you), WBTB, etc etc.


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jagsaw
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PostPosted: Fri 23 Mar, 2007  Reply with quote

gargh I always knew I killed off topics...

also, try to keep your timing the same as your successful WILDs, timing is pretty important...


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PostPosted: Fri 23 Mar, 2007  Reply with quote

When I WILD, my right eye always seem to crop open. Is there anyway to counter-act this?


Current LD goal(s): Short term goal: Practise WILD. Long term goal: Achieve lucidity at will.
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PostPosted: Sun 25 Mar, 2007  Reply with quote

try wearing those things that you put on your eyes when you go to sleep. it used to happen to me but that was when i payed too much attention to it... dont think so much about your body while wilding, think about what you experience in your mind more... i never had a complete wild or had any LDs yet so dont put your money on what i just said smile

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PostPosted: Fri 30 Mar, 2007  Reply with quote

whenever i try to WILD, i always get to the point where my body feels a little numb, but i can still move if i want to. I twitch a little, but ive read this is normal. After i get to the numb-state, i usually try to push myself a little further by imagining something happening to me. Walking somewhere, or falling, or talking to someone, for example. after this i get an amazing sensation like im falling or sinking or spinning then i start to feel like im suffocating so i stop and take a big breath, but by the time ive taken the breath, all the feelings are gone and i have a big adrenaline rush which keeps me from sleeping for a bit. help!

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PostPosted: Tue 03 Apr, 2007  Reply with quote

martinator35 wrote:
whenever i try to WILD, i always get to the point where my body feels a little numb, but i can still move if i want to. I twitch a little, but ive read this is normal. After i get to the numb-state, i usually try to push myself a little further by imagining something happening to me. Walking somewhere, or falling, or talking to someone, for example. after this i get an amazing sensation like im falling or sinking or spinning then i start to feel like im suffocating so i stop and take a big breath, but by the time ive taken the breath, all the feelings are gone and i have a big adrenaline rush which keeps me from sleeping for a bit. help!


I have exactly the same sadblauw I think you shouldnt take a very deep breath but just normal breaths. And maybe you where worrying too much that, once you took the deep breath, you KNOW that it could disrupt the deep trance you are into. Maybe its not only physical, but also a bit mental. just a thought ^^

Correct me if I am wrong ^^

Well, I have had a real wild experience about 4 days ago now (for the first time). The feeling was amazing, heard noises, my body felt REALLY heavy and the electrical feeling was very big.
The problem is that I have tried to do the same wild techinque (I do the 61 point technique) but the problem is is that the sensation that I feel when I try to do it, cant tip the sensation from 4 days ago.

I just want to get to know this feeling\sensation. I want to get used to it and maybe try to keep it as long as possible. I want to make sure I can relax myself so that I have no trouble breathing, my heart isnt racing like hell and that I can step into the next phase.

A question:
I WILD when I go to bed. First I relax myself for 5 minutes. Then I start doing breathing excersizes (how do you spell that? tounge1) for about 10 minutes to clear my mind from incomming thoughts. After I have done this, I do the 61 point technique (I lost the link to the site as an example). While I am doing this technique I sometimes wonder off, most of the times when that happends, my body will have a sort of electrical sensation. It starts small. So what I do is try to feel a sinking sensation, but that did not help yet.
So my question (finally ^^ ) Should I continue with the 61 point technique or should I try to mimmick the sinking sensation, try to focus on breathing or should I do nothing at all?

Oh yeah ^^ I setted the clock early today so that i could try the WBTB, but that failed ^_^ Gonna try it again next morning though 3d


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PostPosted: Sat 07 Apr, 2007  Reply with quote

Yesterday I took a nap, and got into a comfortable position and was relaxed and hypnagogic in about 5 min. I then started to imagine myself in a dream, and it felt as though I was lucid dreaming, because I could control what was happening and it felt like a dream at the same time. But it was like daydreaming, where I had to concentrate really really hard on what I was doing, and had to make the DC say stuff. It also wasn't really vivid either, just as vivid as a day dream.

I am thinking this might have been a low-level LD, but am not certain. -obi


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