I’m having trouble making a sigil! It has the letters VUCRMTSK… I’m having trouble with the K and R.
The best way to create sigils is just to play around, like a child in art class. These are specific symbols of power for you; no one else needs to be able to recognize your intentions for these symbols so don’t worry about perfection. There is no right or wrong. (From www.bewitchingways.com )
Just play around, let your creativity show, and remember that, technically, (Ahem), you don’t need to use all of the letters. One of the steps crucial to the visualization process is minimizing the image to a small glyph and cutting off the rest. Check out Tsondru’s really helpful link in the first post for additional assistance.
thanks, I did it okay - it looks like a ball (or a faceless smiley) with a plastic cup for a hat. The cup has like a cross on it… I have all the letters in it too!
Okay, the next step is…
Now to charge it. Reach a concentrated state of mind and then destroy it and let your SC do the rest.
Now to charge it. Reach a concentrated state of mind and then destroy it and let your SC do the rest.
What the heck is the Gnostic State?
A focused but still relaxed state, kind of like hypnosis. Many ways to induce it, spinning, listening to music, sex, exercise, etc.
hmm… I’m gonna be contemplating paradoxes, I know a little bit about them.
I just did that and I was so relaxed I could have just fallen asleep on the spot! It was cool. how long should it take for me to get the message into my SC?
Meh, a few minutes tops. Don’t try too hard. As long as the belief and the intention are there, the effect will follow. Sigils are like The Secret on speed. 
Don’t forget to destroy it and forget! It’s the most fun part. 
I didn’t have an LD,but that’s probably because I did it only for like, 30 seconds! I’m gonna try again tonight.
Good luck, Li. I’ll make a sigil to help your sigil.
why this over autosuggestion, especially talking to the subconscious about what you want (proper language being HAVE) while dozing off to bed, waking up from dreams, etc?
i’ve tried sigils before, not entirely too seriously, but i think a more interesting way is to use each night’s sleep as a chance to program reality.
Good question, holyreality. For starters, Sigils require creativity, visualization, and much more effort than Auto. I think the sheer “magic” of the designs themselves could inspire a LD. It’s just more fun and in my opinion more effective. Who said you couldn’t use both simultaneously, anyway? Sigils make for a great standalone or supplementary LD method, and I think that versatility always helps.
Well I did it, Ill let you know the results. This is so cool. Now let me see if I did it right…
I wrote… I Wish to have Lucid dreams this week.
I crossed out repeated letters, made a symbole from the remaining letters
Then I charged it, I visulized the symbole, and having LDs.
Then I destroyed it.
Is that right?
Perfect, Kavaa. And whenever you have a dryspell all you have to do is make another. 
my question was more about things other than lucidity actually
i would wager lucid dreams are probably some of the best places for “magick” but this requires extremely high knowledge and expertise.
W00t! Just had a really long Sigil LD with high lucidity! My first good LD in my whole life! Eat that, WILD! 
To answer your Q holy reality, when it comes to Sigils vs Autosuggestion in matters besides Lucid Dreaming, I still think that the messages to your Subconscious are a bit stronger with Sigils because of the creation process. They both work fine, heck they even work good when used together, but I still have a gut feeling that Sigils are better.
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Yesterday I did another Sigil because i wanted and I had a LD xD
I remember it was very clear and long but i cant remember much of it… Just parts of it because my DR was/is very bad atm.
Note. Snow isn’t cold in my dreams, and it doesn’t taste anything
Congrats again Poppp. Hopefully that DR will be back soon. Hell, make a Sigil to help that, too!
This sigil thing sounds pretty weird, but I might try it out once, since people have been getting great results with it in this thread.