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The BIG Reality Check topic, part IV

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The BIG Reality Check topic, part IV
PostPosted: Wed 27 Jun, 2007  Reply with quote

<mod>This is part IV of a continued discussion, the previous part can be found here. siiw</mod>

Just popping in a small note justifying this method works.

Recently (about 1 week ago) I started doing RC's everyday, not heaps but up to 20 perday...Last night I was in one of the most strangest dreams and suddenly stopped to do an RC. I pinched my nose and tried to breathe, but couldn't...so although it didn't work, I still attempted it during a dream...I guess if I keep at it, it will work!

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PostPosted: Wed 27 Jun, 2007  Reply with quote

I'm sure there are lots, but i can't think of many RC's i could do while falling asleep that don't involve moving my body. I want to do one every 6o seconds which i'll count in my head.

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PostPosted: Thu 28 Jun, 2007  Reply with quote

Mental RC's are not told a lot about indeed. neutral Perhaps you could try a RC involving memory?

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PostPosted: Fri 29 Jun, 2007  Reply with quote

^I've been doing this one that i read about in a book: ask myself 'What was i doing 5 minutes ago?' If i can remember, then i'm probably not dreaming. But really, i think this question is better for a daytime RC. It's difficult to be certain that you've answered correctly with no outside proof. (With the hand RC it's immediate confirmation that i'm not dreaming - because i look at my hand and see it's not blurry).

This is going to be akward unsure


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PostPosted: Fri 29 Jun, 2007  Reply with quote

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I've been doing this one that i read about in a book: ask myself 'What was i doing 5 minutes ago?' If i can remember, then i'm probably not dreaming. But really, i think this question is better for a daytime RC.

That also what I thought, it doesn't sound like a good RC in WILD conditions. Now it could perhaps be slightly modified. For instance, when you count 1, you imagine an object, and when you count 60, you try and remember what object you've thought about ? Just my two cents, I've never test this and I don't have any better idea. sadblauw

And what about performing simple arithmetics? Or possibly remembering an event of the day, instead of something which happened 5 minutes ago? Or a phone number?


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PostPosted: Sun 01 Jul, 2007  Reply with quote

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Now it could perhaps be slightly modified. For instance, when you count 1, you imagine an object, and when you count 60, you try and remember what object you've thought about ?
I prefer the sound of that. I'll try it tonight smile


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PostPosted: Sun 01 Jul, 2007  Reply with quote

I was just thinking of something. What effect do you expect from your WILD? Do you worry about being in a dream and not realizing it? If it's the case, perhaps you could just wonder if you're seeing something? If you see a complete environment, then you're dreaming...

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No RC's will work!! Help
PostPosted: Mon 02 Jul, 2007  Reply with quote

Ok
I have been interested in Dreams and Lucid dreaming for a few months. I have only been able to have 2 barely lucid dreams in that time.

In my dreams, it is nearly impossible to RC.
My dreams are always very strange, but i am dreaming so its "normal", i wouldnt even think to do a RC because it is totaly normal to have pink elephants flying through my window. Also, if i do a RC (i.e. hold my nose) i would come up with some reason why this happened, "oh, i can breath because...."
i would never think to be dreaming even though i am.

I have tried many techniques but have failed, the 2 lucid dreams that i had were natural whatsthat whatsthat whatsthat

Someone.
please help me. tell me techniques that worked best for you because i have been trying this for months with no results and i am getting frustrated because i really want to LD but nothing is working
i have put much effort and time into LDing. (waking up at 3 in the morning, eating bananas before bedtime, RCing many times during the day etc.)
help! help! help! whatsthat
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PostPosted: Mon 02 Jul, 2007  Reply with quote

Not all techniques are for everyone. Some people are very good at DILDing, while others can WILD every night and achieve results consistently. There are some techniques that do not rely heavily on RCing, such as WILDing and FILDing. These do require an RC, but not in the context in which you seem to have trouble. I personally reccommend FILDing, as I have had some success with this method. However, only you can find out what technique is most efficient for you.

It is good that you are dedicated to LDing. Motivation is the key to achieving lucidity. Don't get frustrated, no matter how discouraging your limited results are. Just experiment while keeping a calm, determined attitude and you should see some progress. Mabye you should consider taking a break from the ritual techniques. Ironically, some people have actually achieved success just by not thinking about LDing.


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PostPosted: Tue 03 Jul, 2007  Reply with quote

Basilus West wrote:
I was just thinking of something. What effect do you expect from your WILD? Do you worry about being in a dream and not realizing it?

Yes, definitely. When i ask myself an RC question in a dream i might just answer it and not realise where i am.
Basilus West wrote:
If it's the case, perhaps you could just wonder if you're seeing something? If you see a complete environment, then you're dreaming...
8D That's the perfect solution. Thank you for helping. It would've taken me ages to think of a good one


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PostPosted: Tue 03 Jul, 2007  Reply with quote

Glad to have been some help to you. I hope this idea will work. Please keep us informed of your results. :D

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Reality checks losing affect?
PostPosted: Wed 04 Jul, 2007  Reply with quote

<mod>moved from the quest forum moogle </mod>

I find myself doing reality checks every once and a while, but I just don't feel very serious anymore when I check my hands to see if i'm dreaming, for example.

I think my mind has become used to this reality check - i've mixed it up with other reality checks such as checking writing. I've read words in a dream before - they didn't change when I looked back so I sort of don't trust that technique much.

Luckily for me I still have the occasional Lucid Dream - probably at least 2 a month without trying - in which are almost life-like with pretty good control.


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PostPosted: Wed 04 Jul, 2007  Reply with quote

I always do the nose-blow RC - I simply don't trust the hand one.

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PostPosted: Wed 04 Jul, 2007  Reply with quote

That's well thought because you can focus on trying to blow then instead of suspecting your hands to be normal. smile

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PostPosted: Mon 09 Jul, 2007  Reply with quote

I actually used the nose one before but not very often. I suppose I could try using that one although i'm very used to checking my hands now.

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