This is hell

Actually, the Bible is pretty clear on what is Earth and what is Hell - in the Bible there is a clear distinction between the two - and that we are in Earth. It’s also very clear that Lucifer “Lucifer was sent down into the deepest of pits which was Hell”, or something like that.[/i]

The only people who genuinely believe that God is even more brain-dead than they already are are integralists/bigoted people.

Those who say it is that way (and I hope they don’t genuinely believe it) do it (and did it, and will do it) to get as many people as possible into their religion, thus controlling as many people as possible. Hell has always been used to keep populations at bay and make them follow your rules, whatever they may be.

If there is a being called God and worthy of that title, I am fairly sure he’s not like that.

So, fear not.

There’s integralism in Italy as well? Gee, I’m sorry for that! I thought that was one of Brazil’s weird obscure past inside jokes… Although come to think of it, I suppose in a country that’s seen fascism, integralism isn’t that hard to show up as well… I could never take integralists serious. They’ve always been just a bunch of somewhat ridiculous extremist weirdos for me.

No, no, there aren’t any here. Bigoted old folk, or close-minded sunday school teachers at best. I am referring to the American case. I frequent many American forums and websites, and (no offense to America, I’m referring to it since it’s the most blatant case) I have seen things you humans can’t even imagine.

Ours, if they can be called so, are nothing compared to some American schools of “thought”.

Heh, I know what you’re talking about. Integralists themselves, at least in Brazil, are more of a weird joke. But some stuff that goes on around here is really creepy. America is a sick, sick continent, sometimes.

Oh, I did not mean political integralists, but religious integralists.

You know, fundamentalists.

If you’re talking about fascism, yeah, we invented even that, sadly. But this is off-topic.

Btw, this topic demands a Nightwish quote:

“Welcome down… to my… Planet… Heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeell!!!”

Personally I don’t believe in religion, so Hell is just made up. Earth is Earth, and that’s where we are. Hell is more or less just a description.

Save yourself a Penny for the Ferryman, Save yourself and let them suffer!

I love Nightwish’s Planet Hell.

And I agree with Tahku. Hell was an imaginary construct used to frighten people into Christianity. Join or Die and all that.

Just so this is clear, I was realy bored when I started this thread and I dont truly believe in any one religion or that this is realy hell, lol I just wanted to see how many religious nuts would show up and rant and I wanted to witness for myself the diversity of this sites members.

That’s relieving. Believing that hell is underground is like saying astronauts can fly to heaven.

It’s also a medieval belief caused by ignorance about how stuff worked planets-wise.

there ya go, lol I’m still suprised that people havn’t stopped posting on this. well it just shows how much people are realy attached to religion.

Attached to religion? More against stupidity, I’d say.

the earth was created AFTER satan was chucked to hell
i actually read paradise lost a few weeks ago
it was good

I’m gonna be straight with the OP: Christianity is a piece of crap and had led to morale corruption all across the globe, so please don’t propagate Christianity on LD4All.

that is not fair. on very few matters (mainly sexual) has christianity actually led to something as strong as moral corruption. the rest is just human nature, and the longer we keep blaming things like religion the longer we allow it to rot away within ourselves without doing something about it. besides, Shelley put the religion is evil thing forwards in his Queen Mab with such radiant eloquence that anything else on the subject looks shabby and ridiculous.
Though if the state of prostitution in the modern world is down to christianity, it really does have a lot to answer for. i should know, im in amsterdam at the moment!

You appear to not know what moral corruption is.

Moral corruption includes malicious fanaticism (like an undying will to spread Christianity), amoral opinions about life itself, malicious hypocricy, sadistic lifestyle, all that bad stuff.

Christianity as I see it is a malicious religion because it has continually “crusaded” across the Earth and wiped out many other populations, which is already the case of the Sami rune drums (almost, at the very least).

The people who follow Christianity have done that, Cid. The religion itself is very beautiful(albiet, as was stated before a couple issues regarding sex, as well as women). The way modern Christians interpret the Bible is only one of the many interpretations out there.

And that current interpretation contradicts itself on many occasions, thus rendering Christianity THE most useless religion to follow. Buddhism is way better if I was forced to choose one.

Scientology comes to mind…

I’m not dissing or thinking Scientology on purpose if that’s what you’re thinking. I’m just an atheist and approach facts scientifically.