Character Assisted Lucid Dreaming - CALD Part III

Last night I dreamt that Tal was giving me tips on how to make my characters be more real and independent. :tongue:

Saichania and Aiden are a little miffed now that they haven’t yet appeared in any dreams of mine, yet Morph and Tal have both appeared in them. (Morph 3 times so far, and Tal once) (though all three of the Morph ones were before I had heard of CALD, back when he was just a storycharacter)

Hahaha XD Well that’s neat–

But hey, I hope they don’t get too offed, I’m sure that they’ll appear sooner or later! It’s interesting that Morphs popped up that much too-- :stuck_out_tongue: I am unfortuanate in that I only ever visually see my characters when I’m lucid XD

So have things been going well with your characters as of late?

~^^ Amused and happy,
Tal

[Progress Update~! ^^]

Yay XD~ I askedSerpentus to get me lucid today-- but from the blank stare he gave me I didn’t know if he got it…

So!

Since he was a simplistic animal character, and he has a basic personality… I didn’t think it would change much if I took his point of view on things.

So I entered his head, and visualized myself standing there… And I repeated my request-- XD And found that Serpentus very eagerly agreed to try when he understood english XD Then I sort of felt him slither off into his tree, and stare at nothing–

XD It was a very interesting experience, I was still watching from is POV and it was actually fairly amusing staring into nothing XD.

Me: “Serpentus! Help me get lucid, yeah?”
Serp: -Stare-
Me: " . . . hey? You get my meaning?"
Serp: -Stare o.—.o-
Me: “Uhm…”

Then I try visualizing XD

Visualized Me: “Hey! help get me lucid, 'kay…?”
Serp: Suddenly feels eager-- Nodnod, slithers off

XD That’s pretty much the summary of it-- I was suprised how much the reaction changed once I tried that… I guess since I know English and he doesn’t…?

A whole new level of ‘seeing through another’s eyes’ Ha? :stuck_out_tongue:

Oh yeah! And all of this was before bed-- it felt very vivid XD

But yes-- I had to visualize myself into my Serpentus’s view, and after that he seemed to get the gist of what I was saying :3~

So last night, after that request-- started getting bored, and decided I’d try FILD/HILD, because it’s a fun technique ^^~ Then I went into that space of semi-consciousness, it felt cool floating XD I made sure to ask Serp again while I was floating…

Anyways-- In my dream… I saw my characters! XD
It was very cool ^^~ But darn my recall! I’m pretty sure before I saw them, I had a lucid-- I just can’t remember anymore… ><;; I just remeber it being a very dramatic dream, very cool-- XD I’ll post the miniscule bit I remembered into my DJ :P~

Serp was very useful tonight XD I think I’ll have to ask for help in recall next time I try, too @___a XD

~Good luck guys~! :smiley:
~Tal :3[/img]

I would love to try this, but I don’t but I don’t really know how. Could someone explain me on how to do this?

Well, ^^~ Generally, you create a character, either consciously, or take a dream character out of a dream… And you have them help you get lucid–
Mostly, you get them developed to a point of realism, and then just get them to help you get lucid…By asking XD~

:3 It seems to work for some people-- XD But it helps to have willing characters, as well XD

In part 1, there’s a link to a tutorial on how to make the realistic characters ^^~

Some people ask how it works as well-- I think its sort of a type of auto suggestion XD But I think CALD’s been used in WILD attempts, where the characters keep you aware…

But in summary, you make a characters (or retrieve one from a dream) and have it get you lucid… :stuck_out_tongue:

~But anyways! XD I hope that answered your question…
~Tal :3

:eek: I know the exact character I want :cool: So I’ll just imagine 'em during attempting wild and tell them to get me lucid right?

XD It’s good you have your character in mind-- but you can make them anytime you can concentrate! XD Already-made characters work better for WILD attempts :smiley:

But after you make them-- y es, you ask them to get you lucid ^^; Some people use them more so as tools… I personally try to get them as realistic as possible-- O-o; Though I’ve found simplistic characters to be useful too… ^^~

Good luck!
~Tal :3

For picking the character, I’m just making sure, can I just pick one out of no where (none in my dreams) and I’m sure to enjoy that character?

^^~ It’s a personal choice, you’re allowed to chose any character :3
You can make one, or chose one, it doesn’t matter. :3 As long as you can develop that character and communicate with it. :3

There’s really no many restrictions when it comes to this technique ^^~ It’s a very varying tech… :stuck_out_tongue:

From one individual to another~! :smiley:

Good luck!
~Tal :3

Well Sage almost got me lucid on Friday night which was a surprise. I think I was trying to bury him while he was yelling at me that I was dreaming :neutral:
My characters and I have been doing alot of auto suggestion before I sleep and it seems to be helping alot.
Congrats on your awesome progress Talon. It must have been so cool seeing your characters!

Haha, that sounds gruesome, but interesting ^^~
I’m glad you’ve been getting progress :smiley:
I’ve personally been going lucid quite often lately-- and as much as I’d like to attribute it to my characters and CALD, I couldn’t honestly do that D:>
They help keep in mind the RCs I do frequently, though XD.
And yes-- It WAS cool seeing my characters… and they’ve been popping up quite often, actually… :smiley:

:smiley:
I think, I will with the best of my ability go lucid tonight, so that I might conduct a few experiments, and fufill a few promises.

Definitely, tonight, I must ask a DC (which I’ve never tried) to help continualy get me lucid, and perhaps I will try asking Serpentus again to help achieve this-- If not asking them to show up and tell me (because we all know we miss it sometimes) I could ask them to just get me lucid regularly–
Regardless of if they actually show up or not, if I go lucid regularly (more so, XD I guess) Then I guess the result is all that matters…

XD So Yes! Hopefully, Sage can get you lucid tonight Astraea, and maybe oneday, if it proves constant enough-- we can schedule a get-together XD

~Happy lucids!
Tal :3

Its great youve been getting so many lucids! I havnt had one in awhile but I can feel one coming (hopefully :tongue: ) Sage is doing alot of hard work so I hope it pays off. I did feel quite guilty when I woke up and remembered my dream of trying to bury him. I hope that Serpentus agrees to help you to LD more often. Are you planning on doing anymore sketches of your characters?
A get-together would be great lol and differnitly interesting!

Thanks for the optimistic words ^^~
With all of that determination, I’m sure Sage’s work will be well-spent, and worthy of the great lucid you’ll get eventually XD
And at the very least-- You don’t chose what you dream until you’re lucid :stuck_out_tongue: So you never -intended- on burying him, yeah? It was just a ND, we can’t influence that till we go lucid ^^~

As for Serpentus? XD I tried yesterday and found he was asleep-- poor bugger, A few minutes after I asked, he went and fell asleep again-- I need to sleep earlier XD

I actually sketch my characters all the time! XD But if anyone really wants to see them more often, I’ll take requests XD (as long, as, obviously-- it’s not about something my character’s would never do! <8O!)

:stuck_out_tongue: I hope we could do that one day! It sounds like it could be fun ^^~ ( I see my friend on a regular basis in dreams-- we’ve had a shared dream or two already, we should really get our characters together one-day XD!)~

~Good luck, and happy lucids! :smiley:
~Tal :3

I’ve recently took the plunge and added a fifth MC, Crysar. I tried for a compromise between having him spring forth with a preexisting personality like Saichania or Morph did, and having him as a blank slate like Aiden started out as. >_<

Currently he’s eagerly hoping for anger to absorb into himself (don’t ask) and happily awaiting a chance to destroy something. His personality seems to be a bizarre combination of youthful enthusiasm, angst, joy, innocence, and above all, anger, with a sprinkling of various other traits. An odd one to be sure.

I also finally got around to temporarily fixing a problem with the second island in the Mindworld, and in the process met several citizens of the city and learned a few things. (including the fact that there were the ruins of an ancient tomb in the forests to the Southeast of the city) (this was news because I hadn’t put them there at all) :confused:

Can someone give me a rundown as to how I would go about starting and practicing the CALD technique? I’m so confused about the whole procedure. :sad:

This seems like something I could really get into.

Go here: ld4all.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t … r=asc&&sta rt=30 (WTH, seems as if I’m not allowed to post the entire link :confused: Copy from my quote… No, that didn’t work either but simply remove the space)

And scroll down, not really in the middle but a bit higher up. There you’ll find Talon’s step-by-step guide on the character creation process (Thank you Talon :smile: For the first time I actually understand this brilliant technique).

XD Very cool! Crysar sounds absoloutely intriguing ^^~
XD I love him already!
Let’s hope he’ll chose to be very helpful!

As for your world-- What was wrong with the second island…?
I Can’t remember it being mentioned :O! Perhaps I’m not observant enough-- but at least it’s being fixed ^^~
The ruins sound very cool-- by the way :3 Proof that we don’t always have to make every single little detail of our dream worlds, some of it’s spontaneous XD

~Everything sounds fun XD Great update Mecha!
~Happy lucids ^^~
Tal

^^~ Just as MovieMe so politely replied, there is a link that will allow you to see a small tutorial on how to make the characters-- after that, it’s really just co-operation and getting the characters to help you get lucid…
You talk to them just as you would IRL people or us, and get their level of realism up.

It’s kind of like a sort of auto-suggestion… But getting the realism into the characters demands you don’t convince yourself they’re just puppets-- That won’t work :O!

XD But yes-- follow the link and sure enough, you’ll know how to make the character… It’s just the part of having them get you lucid then! :3

Hope that helped-- if you still have any questions, be sure to ask! We have plenty of knowledgable people on this thread as Movieme displayed ^^~

Good luck, and happy lucids!
~Tal ^^

Haha! Thank you so much for providing an answer before I could-- I would have been sad if a question was left unanswered for too long ^^~

And thank you very much for being so condierate-- I’m glad you understand the tech and I’m glad you seem to like it ^^~
But don’t thank me :stuck_out_tongue: you’re the one who took the initiative to learn! :smiley:

You’ve guys have made my day yet again!~ XD

Much love,
~Tal

Happy lucids! ^^~

These tentacles: https://orange.blender.org/wp-content/themes/orange/images/media/gallery/s8_emotease.jpg

Which burst out of the sand near the beach while listening to this: https://download.blender.org/ED/4-EmoCreates.mp3
(it’s under a creative commons license so you don’t have to worry about downloading it)

I thought it was an isolated incident, until I came to the city. Everyone was in hiding, and the gaurds were edgy. I wasn’t able to get much out of them, but evidently something was wrong. Not feeling like taking care of the problem right then, I just put a temporal field around the whole island to freeze time while I was away. (so that nothing would get worse) A couple weeks later I finally got around to seeing what I could do about it. Returning to the island, I disabled the field and got directions to the city hall. I flew along the streets along with Morph, Saichania and Aiden. (in the mindworld they have almost the same powers that I have, with the exception that I can undo anything they do, and they don’t have the nuclear option of controlling me like I have.) We were told we needed an appointment to see the Mayor, until I told the attendant that I was the owner of the island to the north and needed to talk to the mayor immediately. Then we were brought to see the mayor, who told us his name was Anprete Daco. He was able to tell us a little about a local legend about the tomb, and reffered us to the local library for more information. We thanked him for his time, and left for the library. This time we took a cab. Once we were there, I reactivated the timefield and went back to real life. Some days later I resumed the task and asked one of the librarians where I could find information on the ruins to the south. She showed us to the history section and showed us several books on the subject and then left. I was about to start browsing through one, when I realised that text would be next to useless in the mindworld, which shares some characteristics with dreams, like screwy letters. Frustrated, I wondered what we would do next. Sai suggested finding a historian and asking him about it. Agreeing that that was a good idea, I called up a map of the island on Mecha’s viewscreen and asked him to show the location of any historians on the island. There was one, locacted in the northwest section of the city. I teleported everyone to outside the building he was in, a grubby rundown structure. He didn’t seem very nice when we met him, and evaded several of our questions. We left feeling rather suspicious of him, but at least we now knew exactly where we could find the ruins. When we got there, the tentacles attacked again. Not in the mood for a fight, I simply banished them with a thought. No obvious entrance was visible, so Aiden warped inside and had a look around. He came out with a run down radio that had been placed in the tomb, apparently the gaurdian is easily put to sleep by music. We think that the historian was the one that put it there, to distract the gaurdian long enough for him to do whatever it was he wanted, perhaps steal artifacts, or information. We left a new radio in the heart of the tomb with an extra long-lasting battery to keep the beast pacified until a more long-term solution could be thought of.