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wnvoss
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PostPosted: Fri 24 Aug, 2007  Reply with quote

Draginvry wrote:
Moinsquerien wrote:
May religion be a empowering delusion?
Most of the time, yes.
Has anyone seen this video?


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PostPosted: Sat 25 Aug, 2007  Reply with quote

wnvoss wrote:
Draginvry wrote:
Moinsquerien wrote:
May religion be a empowering delusion?
Most of the time, yes.
Has anyone seen this video?


That really reminded me of this article. I wonder if Cline had any association with Wong?


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PostPosted: Sat 25 Aug, 2007  Reply with quote

Does that article pretty much mean we can associate with up to 150 people without being a jerk?

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PostPosted: Sat 25 Aug, 2007  Reply with quote

Debate, hmm.. confusing as religion is too.

I do believe there is a higher being (even possibly a deity). All of these religions are wrong IMO. The "true religion" is now probably lost due to ignorance and/or anything related to that certain religion was lost due to time's fault.


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PostPosted: Sat 25 Aug, 2007  Reply with quote

Patarak wrote:
Does that article pretty much mean we can associate with up to 150 people without being a jerk?


It means that we can't associate with over 150 people, and still view them as individuals.


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PostPosted: Sat 25 Aug, 2007  Reply with quote

Genkai wrote:
What Moinsquerien said makes perfect sense. tounge2

Draginvry wrote:
Moinsquerien wrote:
May religion be a empowering delusion?


Most of the time, yes.


Exactly, that is also what I believe. I think religion is a delusion indeed, but nonetheless it is not a bad thing. It empowers and gives faith. People like believing these things.. so why not?


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PostPosted: Sat 25 Aug, 2007  Reply with quote

Sometimes, it just cuts it to be nice. Why would it really matter if you believed or refused to believe in entities?

If you've led a kind, benevolent, constructive life... what is there to worry about? Is God going to strike you down for simply living such a life? And if there was no afterlife, you probably still had a good time. Oh well. Game Over.

I think some people need faith and beliefs to live this way. It's nice to have that extra uumph. I've had it before.

Others just don't need faith to live a fulfilling life. I believe these people to be the most spiritual, virtuous people without a leash.

The people that I truly worry about are the ones lacking morals. Unless they can find it in themselves, or find it in God, things may get hard for them.


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PostPosted: Sat 25 Aug, 2007  Reply with quote

If believing in an afterlife is empowering and nothing more, then isn't it the only logical stance? Why doesn't everyone believe in it?

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PostPosted: Sat 25 Aug, 2007  Reply with quote

we are monkeys? thats bullshit!

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PostPosted: Sat 25 Aug, 2007  Reply with quote

Saying that humans are just monkeys is like saying that the Monna (yes, with two Ns, otherwise it's a Venetian swear word) Lisa is just some oil on a canvas.

As long as the raw materials are concerned, it's almost true. But anyone can tell the huge difference between the two.


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This is stupid.
PostPosted: Sun 26 Aug, 2007  Reply with quote

This post won't resolve anything. Just go out there and live life. Very few people are going to look at this thread and totally change their view on life. Adios amigos.

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PostPosted: Sun 26 Aug, 2007  Reply with quote

Paradise Lost wrote:
Saying that humans are just monkeys is like saying that the Monna (yes, with two Ns, otherwise it's a Venetian swear word) Lisa is just some oil on a canvas.

As long as the raw materials are concerned, it's almost true. But anyone can tell the huge difference between the two.

Humans also have some of the genetic structure of bananas. <__<

flo148 wrote:
This post won't resolve anything. Just go out there and live life. Very few people are going to look at this thread and totally change their view on life. Adios amigos.


That's not the point of this thread... it's just asking well... it's just asking the question in the title. No beliefs are being challenged (so far) and no one is trying to convert anybody. -__-

We don't need a vigilante here.


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PostPosted: Sun 26 Aug, 2007  Reply with quote

Religion living by it's true principles that understands there is more than one version of Truth: Empowerment

Religion that does not live by it's principles: Delusion


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