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I was wondering... shouldn't eyes be pointing far up in the stages just before REM? I was trying this yesterday night and had no results until I sent my eyes up there... then the transition hit (felt like a light electric shock, heart rush and all and as alwais I got excited lost it and went fully awake) |
So what you are saying is that we should do this in the late night and do WBTB? I'm confused when you said "I sent my eyes up there..." |
Sorry for being unclear... I'm not from an english speaking country...
I did it before sleeping (worked 2 times by now) so... to make it clear
1)I began faking rem
2)at some moment I remembered I heard normally when you are in deep sleep eyes tend to point upwards to a spot between the eyebrows so I tried to do it
3)seconds after I was feeling shocks and tinnitus and everything I know should be the transition.
4)I'm trying it again tonight... probably with WBTB
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| Posted: Thu 29 Nov, 2007 |
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Do you just wait for it to normally reach that point looking up or do you do it manually by just looking up and doing fake R.E.M. at the same time?
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I just wait for the body to get a fair amount of numbness
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I tried it as I relaxed last night, and for a second I was experience what seemed like HI, it was this cloud of changing color, the cloud was motionless. It was mainly appearing at the top part of the blackness. All I did was wait until I was relaxed, then I looked up and moved my eyes left to right back and forth. I noticed though that my eyes started to get sore, so I could only be effective once.
About the HI, I am not entirely sure if it was real or my imagination... It seemed more clear than imagination though. I also experienced my adrenaline going a bit high with heartbeats. What concerns me is that it may be a placebo effect, rather than HI. I doubt it though, I have a hard time believe things people say about things, so I don't think it's placebo.
Anyways, I will try it again tonight. I did not reach numbness before trying, I was still conscious, just relaxed and tired. My body was in no way in SP, I could and did move. Other times I tried my eyes simply were too sore to do it anymore..
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| Posted: Tue 04 Dec, 2007 |
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Hey I'm a long-time lurker and finally decided to post.
This thread is interesting because I THINK I've had this without even trying many times. And the weird thing is that I wasn't even that tired yet to fall asleep. My eyes were closed and suddenly had what I could describe as some sort of electrical shock or something. I always kinda freak out by this thinking I'm falling into SP though I've never had one. Then I try to open my eyes right away but it's kinda hard to open them.
So what could it be? Surely SP doesn't happen that fast?
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| synktwist wrote: |
Hey I'm a long-time lurker and finally decided to post.
This thread is interesting because I THINK I've had this without even trying many times. And the weird thing is that I wasn't even that tired yet to fall asleep. My eyes were closed and suddenly had what I could describe as some sort of electrical shock or something. I always kinda freak out by this thinking I'm falling into SP though I've never had one. Then I try to open my eyes right away but it's kinda hard to open them.
So what could it be? Surely SP doesn't happen that fast? |
Well maybe... 
But i doubt it.
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| Posted: Wed 05 Dec, 2007 |
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hahaha, i have jumpy thoughts when I'm awake too, always when i try to "simulate" a situation in my head it's like
i walk...
...ing to a fr...
...ng up to...
...ging some...
...ying hey...
...etc etc...
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| Posted: Wed 05 Dec, 2007 |
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Whenever I wake up in the middle of the night (3-4AM) I don't think of doing this!  I'm going to try it next time I wake up in the middle of the night gotta leave my self a note.
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| Posted: Fri 21 Dec, 2007 |
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ok so you move your eyes around like you are looking at a dream ..... but what is it you do with your thoughts i thought i saw u say something about your thoughts pattern
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I did it once and it worked, it just kept flickering automatically and i even entered deeper state. I think is a good way to trick the body or mind, i might try it tonight.
And talking about R.E.M., shouldn't be REM after 90 minutes or so, i had one much before the required time. Very weird, too quick.
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| synktwist wrote: |
Hey I'm a long-time lurker and finally decided to post.
This thread is interesting because I THINK I've had this without even trying many times. And the weird thing is that I wasn't even that tired yet to fall asleep. My eyes were closed and suddenly had what I could describe as some sort of electrical shock or something. I always kinda freak out by this thinking I'm falling into SP though I've never had one. Then I try to open my eyes right away but it's kinda hard to open them.
So what could it be? Surely SP doesn't happen that fast? |
Okay this time I was actually dreaming but during the whole dream I had this weird feeling like I almost knew the things I were doing were surreal. Like for example there was this guy who I started to punch in the face because I knew I could do it right there at that moment but I would never do it in real life. Then there was another incident at which point I somehow felt like I HAD to wake up and tried to open my eyes but like last time it was so hard to open them. Even harder than the last time. I even saw my room but still couldn't fully open them and had to close them again. I think when I closed them again I could've continued the dream but stupid me didn't fully realize that it was a dream and still tried to open my eyes and after a few tries I woke up. I think this is the closest I've ever been to a lucid dream. Also this was during a nap in the afternoon.
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| Posted: Sun 30 Dec, 2007 |
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ok so you move your eyes around like you are looking at a dream ..... but what is it you do with your thoughts i thought i saw u say something about your thoughts pattern |
is any1 going to answer
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altheman - It sounds like it could have been an OoBE about to occur, but I can't tell from those details.
to the poster- I tried this last night and although I did not have an LD, it put me to sleep way quicker than normally. I think you may have stumbled upon something of some significance.
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| onestick wrote: |
altheman - It sounds like it could have been an OoBE about to occur, but I can't tell from those details.
to the poster- I tried this last night and although I did not have an LD, it put me to sleep way quicker than normally. I think you may have stumbled upon something of some significance. |
where did i write that?
Current LD goal(s): Short term goal: Practise WILD. Long term goal: Achieve lucidity at will.
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