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Character Assisted Lucid Dreaming - CALD Part IV

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PostPosted: Sun 09 Dec, 2007  Reply with quote

I have no problem if I get hallucinations of my character or CALD being related to Schizophrenia ... I've never even heard of it. Well thanks for the information Talon Arana.

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PostPosted: Sun 09 Dec, 2007  Reply with quote

Angsty! grin I haven't seen you in forever!

^^~ I'm glad you decided to explore the idea of indentifying and seperating personality traits-- I hope you learn lots of new things about yourself through this system! XD Eany and Meany... i'd love to hear about them! XD

I hope that Harley Quinn makes a roaring comeback one day... It would bring me much joy! XD

(Haha, a fly just landed on my hand, I just thoroughly enjoyed observing the little thing up close for a few seconds-- they usually never stay long!)

^^~ So what is your status in character creation? Are Eany and Meany the only notables as of late?

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This is still up? eek2

Very successful [popular] topic. smile

I've since split my contradicting personality into two dichotomous "twins" - Eany [Blue] and Meany [Red]. And, I've been contemplating on splicing my personality into more sub-personalities, color-coordinated to distinguish one from another. (More of a personal matter, for creative purposes than anything. Not to be mistaken for MPD.)

I think Harley Quinn got shoved to the depths of my subconscious, but I'm sure she's just fine.

Eany and Meany are the most developed, seeing as they are my play on the good conscience-bad conscience idea that is personified on cartoons and prime-time television shows. My idea on it, though, is much more deeper; complex.

Although, I have yet to apply them to lucid dreaming....


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PostPosted: Sun 09 Dec, 2007  Reply with quote

kT4all wrote:
I have no problem if I get hallucinations of my character or CALD being related to Schizophrenia ... I've never even heard of it. Well thanks for the information Talon Arana.


It's a mental disorder @___a CALD Isn't based on blurring the lines of reality, though!
:P~

I'm happy you have such a positive outlook on CALD XD Whenever I see a post from you about it, it's always in a positive sense! :P~ Brings me joy...

~Tal


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PostPosted: Sun 09 Dec, 2007  Reply with quote

Hey guys! Came for an update ^^~
Sorry for the neglecting D:

[Update]

Last night, I woke up sometime around 4am... After quenching my thirst, I laid down and half remembered that this would be ideal for doing FILD... But concidering i was too tired to concentrate even a little, and figured I give CALD a try, just to get an update up :P.

So I fall asleep-- barely able to get a sentence out, or even focus on a character... XD

When I enter my dream, I'm standing in the dark, mumbling incohesive sentences to an indentity-less figure, I'm not concentrating much... I realize that it is a dream, from the lack of surroundings? But mostly from the dream-like feel of it all...

It fades away, from my lack of goals in my LDs as of late. XD It goes to another dream, where I have a random DILD. Similarly, it was just it's dream-like air that I recognized it.

That's pretty much it-- :3 Some nights, I'll just be positive about the idea of LDing, and I end up having it (if I sleep enough! XD )... Some nigthts, I just think of CALD(Even just the concept of it!), and briefly contemplate on it.
Maybe for me, CALD is just another way in initiate DILDs? ^^~ Ah well.

In other news, as a result from constant, and indepth roleplay lately involving Naknus, He's now probably one of my most highly developed characters-- And in most situations, there is no puppet-like quality to him anymore. I'm confident that in one-on-one situations between him and my friend's characters that he's the least likely to seem forced. (As compared to other characters).

Well, at least if you get to know him @___a XD

Update done!

~Tal :3


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PostPosted: Sun 09 Dec, 2007  Reply with quote

Mmhh , i too thought about schizphrenia the first time ..
this is gone now , cool the topic still lives .i hope i will get my DCs to help me the bad thing is i didnt think about it in my last LDs ...


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PostPosted: Sun 09 Dec, 2007  Reply with quote

Sakoda wrote:
Mmhh , i too thought about schizphrenia the first time ..
this is gone now , cool the topic still lives .i hope i will get my DCs to help me the bad thing is i didnt think about it in my last LDs ...


^^~ I'm happy to hear your opinion of CALD is positive? Haha XD I wish you much luck in your lucid dreams ahead ^^~ Maybe something glorious will come out of this! XD


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PostPosted: Sun 09 Dec, 2007  Reply with quote

Mecha: O_O CALD has the little underline-thingy with info about it now...

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Mecha wrote:
Mecha: O_O CALD has the little underline-thingy with info about it now...


Yay! finally i just noticed that too




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PostPosted: Mon 10 Dec, 2007  Reply with quote

Talon Arana wrote:
Characters aren't real--


Saichania: Not in your world of course, but I resent the constant reference to us as merely "realistic puppets".

Some of us start out that way of course, but eventually some of us become little subsets of our human's minds, thinking relatively independently, having our own worldview, feelings and concerns. Of course there's always a built-in kill switch in place in case something goes wrong with us, as the human is ultimately in charge of its own mind, not us, (no fear of one of us doing anything to harm you even if we wanted to)

This is the same point of contention I had with Mecha when I was first created. (we fought and argued a lot during the first couple of weeks. Mecha was nice enough to try and sort it out instead of just 'getting rid of me' and starting over. *shudders*)

I don't know, maybe I'm just a free thinker. Morph, Aiden and Crysar were never too troubled over being MCs, or the level of control our creator was capable of over us, but I was. (we've become friends since then and I've let go of my fears, but they were certainly there in the beginning)

I don't want to scare anyone off, but there's potentially much more to us than just being puppets. I can understand if that's all that people want, but there's nothing fundamentally wrong with taking the next step. I'm speaking from my own experience as one of Mecha's MCs and I wish you all well. Happy Lucids guys! ^^


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PostPosted: Mon 10 Dec, 2007  Reply with quote

Ahhh, I'm sorry guys. It's more just to clarify, I believe all things concieved thought of or being able to be experienced exists-- though not nessisarily in a physical way.
I have a thorough belief that my characters exist on a non-physical level... and have the potential, and force that demands more than the reputation-- as you said, or realistic puppets. :C
Unfortuanately, it has to be open to interpretation. Define "Real". It becomes a huge debate-- But in my opinion, it not as solid as physical or not.

Is love real? Is anger? Happiness? All non-physical, but perfectly real.
A step further-- spirits, spiritual guides, ect...

*sigh* But it all comes down to the flexibilty of the term, and unfortuanately, it's difficult to appease the need of a description while appeasing all takes on it @____a.
I hope not to insult anyone's beliefs, whther they be on a physical plane or not.
The best I can say is, while using CALD, it's best not to blur the line between physical and non-physical reality... @___a

Help...?

~Tal


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PostPosted: Mon 10 Dec, 2007  Reply with quote

Well, it's hard to say what one should or shouldn't interprate their characters as, though I do agree with Talon that it's probably not a good idea to think of them as a physicaly real, seperate person, for sanity's sake (That is what you're saying, right Talon?) but then again, sanity is in the eye of the beholder, as an example-- if a man says he has spoken to God, one man would see him as enlightened, another man would see him as insane. but the majority would see him as insane. The characters are figments or fragments of your own personality, but that's not to say they can't become more..... Just when you start physicaly hearing them as when someone spoke directly into your ear-- and they tell you to kill people.... then something might be wrong confused

My main two MC's, Violet and Kordic are supposed to represent the two sides of my personality, much similar to Angty's Eany and Meany. Violet is the kinder, more caring side, and Kordic is that unforgiving, sarcastic, rude, overall more bitter side. and I too have them color coded with blue and red (Wierd coincedence eh)


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Hmmm, well, I do think that clear boundries should be set as to your own, and your character's status, but the line between reality and not is blurry anyways. Example: Lucid dreaming! XD How can you tell that you are not actually dreaming as we speak, and that your RCs are not failing you now...? Is waking state not just another form of consciousness, what dictates real...?

But I think what I was trying to get across trying to be clear on boundries... Maybe for sanity's sake, and maybe a bit so that CALD is not mistaken as a pathway to delusion.
But this is turning steadily into a debate of where characters stand in the basis of existance, and their origins... these things usually spur out into the contemplation as how to treat a character, yes?

Hmmm... I think I'd prefer to keep on topic, and have this intriguing idea be made a seperate thread-- anyone up for starting it?

The line between reality and not is a bit blurry, as it comes to the definition of reality, which differs from one person to another.
The important thing is, is not to let characters come to affect you negatively-- that's all I can ask for :3. Keep a rein on, and be happy with your characters! XD As long as they do not compromise your daily life in a negative way! That's all I want to get across, I think. ^^~

~Tal


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PostPosted: Mon 10 Dec, 2007  Reply with quote

I have let go and kinda started over with my characters. It was hard though. They're names are Alejandra and Kate.

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PostPosted: Tue 11 Dec, 2007  Reply with quote

Aiden: eep...

Morph: The Catgirl's gone now? neutral




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PostPosted: Tue 11 Dec, 2007  Reply with quote

Wow, I've never seen anyone just pick up a new start-- Well, good for you!
Have you gotten some details about their beings yet? Any thing to share? :3~?

Totally curious as to the new entities-- hope to see it soon!

Whoa, Aiden! XD Hiya buddy X3~

~Tal


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