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| Problem encountered! |
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I encountered a strange problem since I started my search for Lucid Dreams again 2 days ago. I have tried the WBTB, which was what I was originally trying 2 years ago, and which seemed to fit me the best.
The problem is the that 2 last days I have OVERSLEPT for work, I can wake up easily at 4am, VERY tired. I stay up for 5 minutes maximum, while doing normal dream recall exercises.
The thing is when my alarm clock goes off at 6.15am I don't wake up, the alarm clock goes on for an HOUR before I wake up. I have woken up 7.30am 2 days straight now, I hate getting late for work. 
Any advice?
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(I'm not sure this should be in stuff since it is basically a WBTB problem)
... but if it was me I would try to either alter the time you wake yourself in the night (it could be just the wrong part of the sleep cycle for you) and if that didn't work make the time I go to bed a little earlier in the evening. 
Current LD goal(s): visit hippo in the labyrinth * ask DCs questions * shared dreaming with friends
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| Posted: Wed 09 Jan, 2008 |
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I didn't really find a fitting place for it, but it is as you say a WBTB problem.
Alter the time might work, problem is I only have 6-8 hours of sleep every night, MAXIMUM.
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| Posted: Wed 09 Jan, 2008 |
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so instead of 4 am .. try for example 4.30am
you would still be in bed for the same amount of time.
Current LD goal(s): visit hippo in the labyrinth * ask DCs questions * shared dreaming with friends
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| Posted: Wed 09 Jan, 2008 |
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You're right, thanks for your tip, I'll try it. 
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| WBTB Fails for me :( |
| Posted: Wed 09 Jan, 2008 |
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I tried WBTB and it was more like WSAW (Wake Stay Awake). 
I really want a lucid dream, but nothing is working for me. 
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This is towards iona, from page two: You may be Sleep walking, and because your still partially conscious during the lucid dream, you may simply be aware of what you're doing when you're sleep walking. I had that happen to me once before actually, I walked downstairs and was talking to my dad, and I thought that he was General Hammond from the show Stargate: SG-1.
He ended up telling me to go to bed, and I did. It's strange because I remember both things. You may have experienced something like this.
Last edited by princerocker on Thu 10 Jan, 2008; edited 3 times in total
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| Re: WBTB Fails for me :( |
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I really want a lucid dream, but nothing is working for me. |
Just keep trying man, nothing has worked for me either, but I'm sure if you keep it up you'll do it. Every step you take is a step closer, and you're road may be a long one. Remember that, just don't give up. I mean it took God 7 days to build the earth, and he can do anything. But I share your pain. 
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| Posted: Thu 10 Jan, 2008 |
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I don't think WBTB directly induces a lucid dream. From my experiences with normal dreams, by far the most vivid dreams have been those which I have woken up in the morning and gone back to sleep. These dreams are the ones which you could easily become lucid in but you still need a way to become lucid. You should try waking up, going back to bed and doing MILD as you fall asleep. It works the same way I think as when you are going to sleep and you are thinking about an important thing you have to wake up for in the morning.. you just will wake up because you were thinking about it when you fell asleep. Just keep telling yourself that when you are dreaming you should realise you are dreaming and do a reality check etc.
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| Posted: Thu 10 Jan, 2008 |
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Well Borbus,
WBTB doesn't induce directly a ld but increase a lot the awareness and intentions accuracy. Most of my lds happened because i either was starting to know ld and it was a common theme in my dreams or because i would wbtb w/o the intentions...
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| Posted: Fri 11 Jan, 2008 |
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This is towards iona, from page two: You may be Sleep walking, and because your still partially conscious during the lucid dream, you may simply be aware of what you're doing when you're sleep walking. |
sorry, but I highly doubt that I was sleepwalking, as I could feel my face on my pillow, and yet I was out on my roof. I'm pretty clumsy, so if I really had slept-walked to my roof, I probably would have slipped and died.
on another note, I had my first lucid dream the other day by using WBTB. school was delayed due to snow, so I had myself a cup of hot chocolate and went back to bed.
WBTB+Chocolate=Magical Success.
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| Posted: Fri 11 Jan, 2008 |
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I just wanted to say this technique very often works for me, which is especially snappy since I always get up early in the morning and sleep again anyway. 
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| Posted: Thu 31 Jan, 2008 |
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my problem is that when i wake up for WBTB, i'm not motivated enough to stay awake. does anyone have any ways that the use to really wake them up?
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| Posted: Sun 10 Feb, 2008 |
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my problem is that when i wake up for WBTB, i'm not motivated enough to stay awake. does anyone have any ways that the use to really wake them up? |
The two times I have managed to have an LD I have got up and watched a DVD. I planned what film I was going to watch so that I had something specific to do when I woke up . Any other time I have tried WBTB I have just gone straight back to sleep as I have no motivation to get up.
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| Posted: Mon 18 Feb, 2008 |
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Since I'm off school all this week, I feel like it's the perfect time to try WBTBing.
Basically, I set my alarm for 4.5 - 6 hours into the future, then I go to sleep and when it wakes me up I stay up for about half an hour to an hour doing something lucid-dream related (probably surfing these forums), and then I go back to sleep and hopefully have an LD...right?
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