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Petr
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PostPosted: Tue 24 Jun, 2008  Reply with quote

It's my first post, as soon as I read the topics about CALD I decided to register ......I have tried many techniques but they didn't work much, this one seems very interesting, I'm sure I will get nice results.

I have a question though, even though I created it today, my character is already speaking quite fluently ... I fear it might be me the one who's actually "giving words" to my character even if I try to make the process automatic ... any suggestions?


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PostPosted: Wed 25 Jun, 2008  Reply with quote

Mecha: Hehe, I first registered because of CALD too. (Sai's rolling her eyes in the background right now)
Welcome to LD4all and CALD Petr!

I'm not sure what to advise other than to keep at it. Even today there are times when we can't tell who it really was that said something, or when I accidentally put words into my MC's mouths.


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PostPosted: Wed 25 Jun, 2008  Reply with quote

Haha, As always, Mecha, you got it right on the spot. :P

Welcome Petr!
It's fine if the words come fluidly, all the better :P As long as you don't feel like it's all just puppet play, it should work just fine :3~

Keep us updated, and thanks for posting! ^^~


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PostPosted: Sat 05 Jul, 2008  Reply with quote

I'm not quite sure, but I might have dreamed of Andy last night. Or at least it was some kind of furry. He didn't try and get me lucid but we tried to figure out who was in front of who in the line we were in. He might be gay, but I could care less, it's a dream after all.

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PostPosted: Mon 07 Jul, 2008  Reply with quote

Cool, ^^~ It's nice to hear :D It's always nice seeing characters in dreams isn't it?
Hope you learn all the more about him :3~


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PostPosted: Thu 31 Jul, 2008  Reply with quote

I've met some strange characters in my dreams, but I usually don't develop connections with any of them. They'll show up and play a part in one dream, but rarely show up in another, kind of like they're an extra in an episode of a TV show.

Can someone give me a little advice on how to develop stronger relationships with my DCs so they might actually come back and I can get to know them?


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Talon Arana
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PostPosted: Fri 01 Aug, 2008  Reply with quote

Well, a tecnique you could use is try try and develop them in waking life :3
Try imagining them there to chat, and develop/ get to know them.
It would be harder to try and reach them without first being lucid, so you may want to try and form them while awake, you have easier access then--

So how I would handle it, would be to visualize how they look, sound, and what feeling they give off to me, then sort of just... Watch them move, see how they would be. Then perhaps trying to chat? Just try to get a feel for them, I guess :3~

If that was unclear just tell me! Then we can work more on this :3
~ Tal


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PostPosted: Mon 04 Aug, 2008  Reply with quote

As is usual, I'd have to agree with talon on this one. What I usually do is meditate and replay the dream, then call them and start chatting with them as they appear.

On another note, I can report a brief but uneventful first apperance of my character in a dream recently. Gettin closer.


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PostPosted: Thu 07 Aug, 2008  Reply with quote

Ah! Sorry! Late reply :P

Thanks for the support Wolven! ^^~ Congrats on the appearance!
I remember the first successful summon for my characters, and the first random appearances... XD Wow, exciting stuff :P


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PostPosted: Thu 06 Nov, 2008  Reply with quote

It's been a while since I posted an update on Lyra.. The primary reason being that around August I decided it was better to leave her to her own devices. She's off in one of my dreamscapes causing trouble, most likely. tounge2 I thought about a lot of things from then until yesterday. The sentience of these "dream" entities, their "realness" (and I use the term loosely, since the reality of the world in which they exist is a debated subject, but it can at least be said that they have no physical form), and my pursuit of lucidity in general. I'll be frank.. When I turned Lyra loose, my dream recall and semi-frequent lucidity suddenly hit a brick wall. There's something about having such an elaborate character that helped me with dreaming, even when she wasn't telling me directly when I was in a dream.

So I kept small dream journals in those few months, slacking off quite a bit.. XD Then I remembered CALD and decided to give it another go. I realize I could just bring Lyra back if I wanted to, but I feel like my perspective has changed too much since she was my lucid "assistant," if you will - thus enters Shiya.

I didn't have to think very much about this one; she just sort of came to me. She's a feline humanoid (aka catgirl). I think red must be her favorite color.. Because her hair, ears, eyes, tail, and clothes all have varying degrees of red in them! Her eyes and clothes are closer to pink, while those other details are more maroon. Her ears have these interesting black stripes on them.. Her hair's down to about the middle of her back, maybe a little shorter. She prefers to wear it down, but the way she's always running around, I think she might want to consider otherwise. XD She likes fingerless gloves, too. I can barely picture her without them.

She's gentle in nature.. Like a warm snowflake, if that makes any sense. That doesn't mean she's relaxed or anything, though. She bounces around a lot. It's an interesting contrast for me, since I'm laid back and quiet most of the time. Lyra was a lot more.. calm and collected than Shiya is. I'm glad (but not surprised) to report that she's already giving me subtle remarks here and there after less than a day. She giggled when my math professor told us he voted for Ralph Nader. grin She said something to me in a dream last night, but I'm vague on the details - I just recognized her voice. I'm not sure about her history yet. I'm sure it'll come to me in pieces.

I'll have Shiya say hello in the chat thread later. ^^


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PostPosted: Thu 06 Nov, 2008  Reply with quote

Oh wow, that's fantastic to hear! :3 You definitely seem comfortable around the whole concept and connection of dreams and these forms of characters :3 I especially like your exploration into the idea of non-physical reality and their sentience. I feel CALD is good for at least that...

Personally, I grant that sentience can exist on a perfectly valid, though not nessicarily physical reality plane :3

Shiya sounds lovely! It's great when they just kick off like that isn't it? Ghost was like that too, hasn't changed a mite since, either. It'd be fun if you and Shiya ran into Lyra hmm? ^^

I hope your efforts bring you something limitlessly rewarding, we look forward to your new update, that was great!

And hey, :3 New time you go lucid, why not try summoning characters? You wouldn't believe what fun it is! But the difference may suprise you D:

~Happy Days!
~Tal

(P.s, I imagined Shiya's colours, I love the warm colours, she seems so vibrant! Lovely :3 )


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PostPosted: Thu 06 Nov, 2008  Reply with quote

Last night was interesting.

I basically went from an average of one or two normal dreams a night to five, three of which had heavy lucid dreaming related content. It's a wonder I didn't catch on.

I asked Shiya to help me recall my dreams last night, since putting too much responsibility on her shoulders right away seemed a little rude. She performed superbly. I think this calls for a reward of thought ice cream.

Anyway, I'm stepping it up for tonight; I'm going to have her remind me I'm dreaming and see how it goes. Given my previous success with Lyra, I won't be at all surprised if I wake up with an LD to add to my journal.


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Talon Arana
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PostPosted: Fri 07 Nov, 2008  Reply with quote

Wow! It's great to see your success :3 You're definitely really productive :D It's great to hear!

Hey, y'know what? Do you have any tips that could be integrated into a CALD Faq? It'd be great to hear from other users to get various points of view, experiences, and tips you seem especially well off in this!


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PostPosted: Fri 07 Nov, 2008  Reply with quote

(On the LDing note, not as successful as I had hoped. tounge2 Shiya's feeling very apologetic this morning. But tonight's a new opportunity!)

Hm.. I've noticed that it's actually possible to stress my characters out if I require them to do too many things too soon. It hasn't happened with Shiya because I've been taking care to gently slide her into the role of "lucid assistant," so to speak, but I remember I expected Lyra to induce lucidity right away. While it could have worked, Lyra didn't enjoy being so heavily depended upon. She was always quiet in the mornings if I didn't have a lucid dream.

I think you've said before that the character creation aspect of this is the crucial thing, and inducing LDs is more of a bonus; in my opinion, that's really important. It's easier for me to develop a character more intricately when I feel like I'm doing at least as much work to help with LDing as whichever character I'm using is. You don't want to be like the guy in a high school science project who does 10% of the work but gets the same grade as everyone else, right? wink

I don't know what else to say. Working with Shiya will probably give me a different perspective on what I learned with Lyra's help, though. I'll let you know if anything comes to mind.


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Talon Arana
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PostPosted: Mon 10 Nov, 2008  Reply with quote

:D Wow, very logical :3 I like that you're compassionate for them, many just see them as puppets :C

It's a great approach really, and good job with your progress so far! I'll make note of your commentary and log it down :3 Thanks! And great work!

Hope you guys get there tonight!

Happy days :3
~Tal


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