The FILD tech (was HILD) part III

whenever i start to move my fingers, it gets hard to move them and i get really tired and give up. how do i make it so that i wont just doze off??? i dont remeber thinking of what i should do, it was more like, i was just watching tv and not controlling what i was doing. argggggg :grrr: how do i fix this!?!?!?

I think one thing you could try is, when you start feeling tired and your fingers start to slowly move less, allow that but keep imagining you’re moving them. I did this once, at one point my fingers stopped moving completely but I kept focusing on the imaginary movement. That way your fingers are alowed to stop moving but you keep your mind awake.

I’ve had a couple of lucid dreams using WBTB or MILD, but this technique sounds surprisingly easy. I’ll give it a try tonight and report on it tomorrow. I really hope this works well for me.
Update-
I woke up around 3 last night as I usually do. I remembered the FILD technique, so I gave it a shot. I moved my index and middle finger one at a time softly, and focused my mind on nothing but my fingers moving. After about 20-30 seconds, I felt a warp-like feeling through my body. I did the finger movements. for another ten seconds just in case. After I completed this, I did a nose breathing reality check. Success. I was in a lucid dream. This induction method works for me, and I’ll try it again tonight. It’s very easy, and works quickly. :grin:

I’ve tried this before… it doesn’t really work… except for once… but all it induced was a dream of me doing the technique…

If this works it’ll be great.
Anyone ever done this without waking up in middle of the night?

Anyhow I’ll try this tonight :razz:

Hi, and welcome :wave:

FILD should be done when you are very sleepy and close to a dream. In the middle of the night is a much better time to try it. You don’t have to put an alarm, you can just try to tell yourself to wake up after a dream naturally. :wink:

Just to add that it seems that it’s working. I’ve had the same sensation as when WILDing, and as many already said, it makes logic : You just keep this low level focus while moving your fingers as you need in order to wild.

Trying it again this night,
thanks for the tech anyway. :smile:

Just a quick question, i may be wrong but when dreaming, dont you need to enter SP? and if so would wiggling your fingers prevent this from happening?
Im new to lucid dreaming and am really looking forward to trying this tonite. Feeling really confident that it will work too :happy: cant wait :razz:

welcome :wave:

that’s why you have to be really sleepy. The thing is, after a while you stop moving your fingers and enter SP, but as you keep telling your fingers to move, you think they are still moving and you actually feel them moving… but actually they are your dream fingers. does that make sense? :tongue: it’s like, as you fall into SP, your attention goes from your physical body to your dream body (fingers, more precisely) without you noticing.

OMFg, they dont! Ever since ive really been getting into lucid dreaming, i cant wait to go to sleep! And, thats not common for a 12 year old :smile:.

thankyou mattias :smile:, i completly understand, i tried this last night, and, (bearing in mind ive only had one vague ld before) it was the strangest experience, first try. Nothing happened, second try, after only 30 seconds, i try breathe wilst pinching my nose… and it workes, and i had literally such an amazing sensation as i knew i was breathing through my fingers. This then developed into a really strange ld. i knew i was dreaming, so i got up out of my bed, but everything was fuzzy, my head was dizzy and it felt like my head was filled with helium and trying to float to the cealing, i floated a bit off the ground, then all of a suden fell straight back into my bed and woke up. It was really strange but rather shortlived. Definatly trying it again tonite:) thank you for this technique, it is truely like golddust to me at the moment. :smile:

haha, awesome! I have the feeling FILD tends to give such hazy LD’s, at least in the beginning. There should be some nice techs to stabilize and increase the vividness and lucidity at that point, but I should let someone more experienced talk about that :tongue: There was some talk on FILD in this topic, you might find something that just might help in there… Good luck!

When drumming your fingers, do you keep your eyes closed?

And do you set your alarm for 3 hours after going to sleep?

Yep, eyes closed. And FILD should be done in the middle of the night or early morning when you are really really tired. :smile:

yea ive been trying it but setting my alarm for 4 am. i think it must be because summers comeing, as the birds simply wont let me go to sleep again :razz: so i think trick for me might be go to bed earlier and set alarm for maybe 3 am :smile:

definately gonna give this method a try toight

the first time i tried this it worked but it hasnt ever since

First post here

I’ve only had lucids when I have a kid. I just started a serious dream journal. I have yet to purposely achieve lucidity.

Trying FILD with the counting technique on the first page of this topic, tonight.

Welcome and good luck! :wave:

failure! faulty relaxation. I need a good method - under certain circumstances I can easily be on the border of dreams, but when I try, I’m just too inexperienced yet.

My first goal when I have a concrete lucid is to throw a bunch of leaves in the air, and quickly impale each on a sword