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[color=darkblue]Lunatic[/color]: Ive had 5 seconds of a lucid dream before and I am not a disbeliever…
But a thought came to mind wich made me think. What if lucid dreams are just dreams? Maybe we think about them so much that we have a dream in wich we think we are in control and have free will.
Can anyone argue with this?
[color=darkblue]fear[/color]: well then does it really matter either way you do what you wanted to do.
[color=darkblue]Lunatic[/color]: well I guess its good either way, but it would really cut down my facination of it…
[color=darkblue]Tomas[/color]: Those dreams definitely exist, but so does the real ones… After a few lucid dreams, you really learn to know the difference between false and real ones…
In high level lucid dreams my consciousness is exactly as when awake… I think normally, memory is working, i know exactly where my real body is and so on…
When doing for example WILD, you even loose conscioiusness to start with, no blackout or anything…
Lucid dreams definitely exist…
(some offtopic stuff about astral projection…)
[color=darkblue]dreamwalker[/color]: A dream is a dream. A LD just means you are aware you are dreaming
[color=darkblue]pav[/color]: As LaBerge says, dreams seem so real because to dreamer they ARE real, so you can enjoy them as much as RL. And you are conscious, although it’s a bit lower level than in waking life.
[color=darkblue]Argus[/color]:
Then why dont you try to sleep again when in a lucid?
And then in that other lucid that you get sleep again
and again and again and again?
See were you get that way.
[color=darkblue]r3m0t[/color]:What do you mean Argus?
Now I’ll present an equivalent argument to the one Lunatic presented:
“Free will is just an illusion - we don’t conciously choose anything; everything we do is actually planned out by our subconcious”
“Lucid dreams are just an illusion - we don’t conciously choose things in lucid dreams because we aren’t really concious; everything that happens in these dreams is actually planned out by our subconcious”
See the similarity? So why do so few people agree with the first argument, while so many agree with the second?
P.S. by “subconcious” I mean something within our mind which is beyond our concious access (self-referential here, I know).
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