EN | NL | FR
Current Wings Quest 129
Pause Time

the BIG Reality Check Topic [part II]

Post new topic This topic is locked: you cannot edit posts or make replies.

Author  Message 
Ashvura
Long Lost Dreamer
Astral Explorer
35
Posts: 257
Joined: 10 Aug 2003
Last Visit: 17 Dec 2012
Location: Netherlands
 
PostPosted: Thu 22 Jan, 2004  Reply with quote

After reading Pedro's VILD method I learned about the nose-RC. It has only come back in an ND once, but I find it's easy to do and doesn't make you look weird in public. I also don't forget it that much because well, you blink with your eyes all the time, and often I remember to do an RC then. ^^

back to top
Veccolo
Lucid Initiate
Lucid Initiate
Posts: 50
Joined: 17 Sep 2003
Last Visit: 26 Jun 2004
 
PostPosted: Mon 23 Feb, 2004  Reply with quote

[ad mode]

If some of you have trouble to remember to do these checks (like me) you can try my simple RC reminder I've programmed.

http://www.geocities.com/hans_guenther2003/files/jarc p.zip
(Copy&Paste the link into the adress field of your browser)

Well, if you don't sit in front of your computer for long times, it might not be as useful, but you can also use it as an alarm clock or as an digital egg timer if you like ^^

A 32-bit windows operating system is needed. It might even work with the different windows emulators under linux, but well, I didn't go that far with testing ...

Feedback is welcomed ...

[/ad mode]


back to top
milod789
Night Explorer
LD4all addict
Posts: 2991
Joined: 24 Oct 2003
Last Visit: 03 Apr 2013
Location: USA
 
PostPosted: Mon 08 Mar, 2004  Reply with quote

I have kept a dream journal for a long time and I have a good list of dream signs that occur almost every night. I do reality checks frequently during the day. Yet I never become lucid due to the presence of a dream sign or a failed RC. I just seem to realize that I am dreaming then I do a RC to confirm it .Has anyone else experienced this. I am doing fairly well with LD ‘ing I practice booth WILD ‘S and DILD ‘s but I could greatly increase my LD rate if I could just get myself to recognize my dream signs wile I am dreaming.

back to top
JaRoD
LD Addict :P
cookie lover
41
Chat Mods
Posts: 1565
Joined: 16 Dec 2003
Last Visit: 16 Feb 2013
Location: Finland, my bed LDing
 
PostPosted: Mon 08 Mar, 2004  Reply with quote

I don't get lucid from my dreamsigns either even if I remember to do them about 70% of the time I encounter them IRL. But if I do a RC in a dream I usually get lucid. But for some reason the only RC's my dream self do are ones that I don't do IRL. Once I got lucid form trying to put my hand trough a window. And I never do that RC IRL. Lately I too have been getting lucid for no reason.

back to top
plebian
Lucid Initiate
Lucid Initiate
Posts: 83
Joined: 13 Feb 2004
Last Visit: 05 Feb 2005
 
PostPosted: Sat 13 Mar, 2004  Reply with quote

So..any tips on how to build up the Critical faculty to actually attempt an RC in a dream. I've RC all the time during the day had have only sporadicalyl attempted an RC in my dreams. The few DILDs I have had, I just all of a sudden realize that this must be a dream and then after the fact do a state test....

back to top
milod789
Night Explorer
LD4all addict
Posts: 2991
Joined: 24 Oct 2003
Last Visit: 03 Apr 2013
Location: USA
 
PostPosted: Sun 14 Mar, 2004  Reply with quote

That is the way it works for me to. I think that just doing RC during the day, remembering my dreams, keeping a dream journal and studying it so that I get to know my dreams all help develop my critical faculty. I believe that by doing these things I develop a critical attitude toward my reality while awake that carries over to my dreams. I also believe my intention to recognize I am dreaming plays a strong role as well. So far the only dream sign that has caused me to become lucid was flying. I have failed to recognize blatant dream signs that occur almost every night. I either become lucid using WILD where I stay conscious or in the case of DILD I will just realize I am dreaming then I do a RC to confirm what I already know. Im dreaming.

back to top
plebian
Lucid Initiate
Lucid Initiate
Posts: 83
Joined: 13 Feb 2004
Last Visit: 05 Feb 2005
 
PostPosted: Mon 15 Mar, 2004  Reply with quote

milod789 wrote:
That is the way it works for me to. I think that just doing RC during the day, remembering my dreams, keeping a dream journal and studying it so that I get to know my dreams all help develop my critical faculty. I believe that by doing these things I develop a critical attitude toward my reality while awake that carries over to my dreams. I also believe my intention to recognize I am dreaming plays a strong role as well. So far the only dream sign that has caused me to become lucid was flying. I have failed to recognize blatant dream signs that occur almost every night. I either become lucid using WILD where I stay conscious or in the case of DILD I will just realize I am dreaming then I do a RC to confirm what I already know. Im dreaming.


Hi Milod,

Yes, I agree with what you said. I think that perhaps what is important about state testing and keeping a dream journal during waking life is developing an overall familiarity with the difference between the states of waking and dreaming and that familiarity will, in and of itself yield lucidity after a period of time...


Take care wink


back to top
milod789
Night Explorer
LD4all addict
Posts: 2991
Joined: 24 Oct 2003
Last Visit: 03 Apr 2013
Location: USA
 
PostPosted: Tue 16 Mar, 2004  Reply with quote

Hi Pleban

That’s what I believe. It seems to be true for other people I have talked to as well. However, there must be a way to learn to recognize dream signs while dreaming. Otherwise a product like the nova dreamer would be useless. Like I said anytime I find my self flying I know I am dreaming. I don’t even have to be actually flying for this to work. In one dream I was running down a flight of stairs. As I neared the bottom of the stairs I glided over the last few steps and instantly knew I was dreaming.

What is weird is that I never trained myself to try and recognize flying as a dream sign. It is just not something that happens frequently enough to be a good dream sign. Yet any time I find myself in flight or even just a few inches of the groung I instantly become lucid. I am grateful for the times when WILD fails and later I just become aware of my dream state and then lucid. I have several good dream signs that occur almost every night yet they never cause me to become lucid.


back to top
BMXEnigma
New member
New member
Posts: 5
Joined: 21 Mar 2004
Last Visit: 02 Apr 2004
Location: Lancaster, UK
 
PostPosted: Sun 28 Mar, 2004  Reply with quote

my longest and best LD to date (ive only had about 5, handt even heared of LDs 2 months ago either) was after doing a reality check

i was on my landing in my house just about to go down stairs, and i thought 'ther's absolutely no way that im dreaming right now..' and i did actually think this, i was totally convinced that i wasnt dreaming. i looked at my hands like i do IRL after thinking like this and my little finger was sort of flickering on and off. needless to say i became lucid but had a heart attack in the process cos i was totally thinking i wasnt dreaming. i even collapsed and had an FA into another dream but still lucid.


back to top
Quickbeam
Novice dreamer
Novice dreamer
Posts: 11
Joined: 14 Apr 2004
Last Visit: 23 May 2007
Location: California, USA
 
Ack...
PostPosted: Tue 20 Apr, 2004  Reply with quote

It seems, for me, that whenever I am experiencing a dream, it is like watching a movie without any control, and everything I do seems completely normal, for example: the other night I dreamt, myself and some friends were walking on the freeway in between fast moving cars! You know, just walking along, chillin' and it all seemed completely normal. I have been doing RC's in RL for the last week or so, but I don't do them in dreams yet, but what is frustrating is that even though these things in my dreams that are obviously wrong or things that I wouldn't be doing, are normal in my dream, and don't give me any reason to become lucid, even though after the fact, the things I was doing seem exceedingly strange or wrong. Any tips? Unless the answer simply is "practice." I am actively keeping a DJ, but it just gets a little frustrating...

back to top
milod789
Night Explorer
LD4all addict
Posts: 2991
Joined: 24 Oct 2003
Last Visit: 03 Apr 2013
Location: USA
 
PostPosted: Tue 20 Apr, 2004  Reply with quote

Quickbeam

You already said that you are doing RC and keeping a dream journal. Both are important for any of the induction techniques and can even cause you to have LD’s buy them selves.

What technique if any are you currently using to induce lucid dreams?


back to top
Quickbeam
Novice dreamer
Novice dreamer
Posts: 11
Joined: 14 Apr 2004
Last Visit: 23 May 2007
Location: California, USA
 
Techniques
PostPosted: Wed 21 Apr, 2004  Reply with quote

Well, none right now, I kind of have just been hoping to have a DILD, but if you were to suggest a method, which one would you pick?

back to top
milod789
Night Explorer
LD4all addict
Posts: 2991
Joined: 24 Oct 2003
Last Visit: 03 Apr 2013
Location: USA
 
PostPosted: Wed 21 Apr, 2004  Reply with quote

Yes keeping a DJ and doing RC ‘is a technique by its self and will give you LD ‘s you just stay diligent with doing the RC ‘s and writing in your DJ every night. If you are not already doing it I would also suggest that after you do a RC and if you conclude that you are not dreaming tell yourself that everything you see is a dream and that the next time you are dreaming you will realize you are dreaming.

Some other techniques you can add:

You can look in the How tab on the top of the page to get a basic overview of the skills.

MILD- As you go to bed at night you tell yourself over and over “the next time I am dreaming I will realize I am dreaming”like a mantra until you drift off to sleep. You can read more about it in the BIG MILD topic. This is a very popular technique.

WILD- (my favorite) Where you fall asleep consciously. Find more info in the big WILD topic

These are just a few of the techniques you can learn.

Happy Dreaming


back to top
34
Posts: 786
Joined: 11 May 2004
Last Visit: 14 Jun 2011
Location: asteroid B 612
 
PostPosted: Thu 13 May, 2004  Reply with quote

it just occured to me that (being a busy person) i look at my whrist watch quite a lot during the day, but i can't seem to recall having any dream in which i looked at my watch. would that make the watch RC ineffective for me?

back to top
r3m0t
A head librarian
cookie lover
Posts: 1578
Joined: 05 Jan 2004
Last Visit: 23 Apr 2008
Location: London Age: 15 LDs: about 9
 
PostPosted: Thu 13 May, 2004  Reply with quote

No, it would probably be fine. Why wouldn't it?

back to top
Display posts from previous:
Post new topic This topic is locked: you cannot edit posts or make replies.

print  

All times are GMT + 2 Hours
Jump to:  


Powered by phpBB
LD4all ~ spreading the art and knowledge of lucid dreaming online since 1996 ~