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Alaky
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PostPosted: Sat 07 May, 2011  Reply with quote

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Remembering my dreams isn't something I personally like to use a mantra for. My SC already knows that when I'm interested in DR and keeping a DJ that I'm interested in it, and it gets better. However, something like waking up at a certain time without an alarm clock is definitely something I would do because it doesn't happen so easily for me. Really, I don't even do techniques at all to have LDs (though it certainly helps to keep my Goal/Progress Journal), but I know others need them. However, I think remembering dreams can possibly be an "easier" task than waking yourself up.

I found it interesting how my roommate wakes herself up naturally whenever she wants in the mornings, so I thought she'd be a great lucid dreamer, but she doesn't even want to remember her dreams. I'm sure she could, but she just doesn't want to.

Basically, my point is that mantras are just reinforcing the message you give your subconscious. You already desire to remember your dreams and to wake up at a certain time. The mantras reinforce that, so I don't think there's "too many" mantras. The key is that you desire those two things, and you're just telling yourself that you want them. If you tell yourself something over and over, you're more likely to believe it. (Bad example, but if I make up a little lie about something and keep telling it, like how I really broke my one umbrella, sometimes I'll even start believing it myself.)

Argh, I rambled just to answer one question. Oh well. Hope this helps. ^^


Mmm, verry interesting what your said. thank you ^^



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PostPosted: Sat 07 May, 2011  Reply with quote

Yesterday, I do a mantra for awake me at 7:30. I awake at 7:42 and I was so nervous to see if it was 7:30 that I forget my dream... fail.


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PostPosted: Sun 08 May, 2011  Reply with quote

@Alaky

If im woken by a source other than myself i tend to forget my dreams as well. If you have the presence of mind to wake up but close your eyes and lay like your still asleep and start thinking u can usualy start to peice together your dreams. Also ive had success going into the shower and closing my eyes and relaxing and having my dreams come back to me. I also have a fairly active mind where im constantly thinking about things so i tend to randomly think of something that resparks my dream memory at times.

And on the note of waking up, when i first started to try to LD and was realy excited i was waking up at the end of every REM cycle so i was able to get up as early as neccisary. I am currently working on gettin that back since i stopped trying to LD for a while.



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PostPosted: Sun 08 May, 2011  Reply with quote

Alaky wrote:
dB_FTS wrote:
Alaky wrote:
I have difficulty to remember dreams because of the alarm. So I'll try to remember my dream and find my dream sign.
Thanks for your help Y4ZT.
Alaky


Try mantra for waking up without alarm, it helps me in a great way, and you can use that for WBTB.

Yeah, but mantra to remember dream, mantra to wake up, you don't think it's to much mantra?


It's to much for one night, I use them separately, specific mantra for few days...



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PostPosted: Mon 09 May, 2011  Reply with quote

Ok thanks


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PostPosted: Thu 19 May, 2011  Reply with quote

Ok so after a some day of break, I'm back. I was sick, so I wasn't easy to do a mantra. So now, I canremeber 1-2 dreams in a night. Is it enough? I don't find my dream sign and I want to know how?
thanks
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PostPosted: Thu 19 May, 2011  Reply with quote

Sure, I think it's enough. Of course, I can't really say myself, since if I have enough recall to have a good LD, I'm remembering more than 1-2 (unless I don't want to, then that's a different story). Usually you find dreamsigns through something that shows up commonly in dreams. It can be a bit harder to recognize dreams without having any dreamsigns, but usually I forget to find dreamsigns or use only really general ones that I've noticed over the years. However, most of the time, my LDs are not because I recognized DS.

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PostPosted: Thu 19 May, 2011  Reply with quote

ZRVera wrote:
Sure, I think it's enough. Of course, I can't really say myself, since if I have enough recall to have a good LD, I'm remembering more than 1-2 (unless I don't want to, then that's a different story). Usually you find dreamsigns through something that shows up commonly in dreams. It can be a bit harder to recognize dreams without having any dreamsigns, but usually I forget to find dreamsigns or use only really general ones that I've noticed over the years. However, most of the time, my LDs are not because I recognized DS.

Ok thanks



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PostPosted: Fri 20 May, 2011  Reply with quote

Hello
If I post my DJ, can you try to find my dream sign?



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PostPosted: Sat 21 May, 2011  Reply with quote

Well, there's not necessarily one dream sign. Sometimes you can have multiple, sometimes you have none. Maybe you don't have any... And I say the best person to analyze your dreams is always you.

But if you want to keep a DJ on ld4all, you can do so in the Dream Journal subforum. ^^


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