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Archery13157
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Lucid Living is COMPLETELY Necessary
PostPosted: Tue 19 Jun, 2012  Reply with quote

I had a lucid dream last night where I was at my old house playing pool on a sideways pool table and still wondering If I was still Dreaming or not. Lucid Living is required for a vivid and clear insight of which state you are currently in.

I mean, just think about it. A lot of people reality check without meaningfulness, which, habitual or not, reality checking in a dream would be the same reaction unless you truly mean it. Who's to say you're dreaming right now? Don't say you're just not dreaming, because you could wake up in five minutes and find out you actually were. PROVE you're not dreaming. Prove it to yourself right now. In dreams, unrealistic things seem completely realistic and slip your attention like no other. Look around you. Anything unusual? Of course not, because you can't recognize it. Its the same in a dream. See what I mean? Reality Check right now and do it with meaning. I, personally think LL is an inevitable part of Lucid Dreaming.



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PostPosted: Tue 19 Jun, 2012  Reply with quote

I agree. But it may be just a matter of people.
I'm also unable to lucid dream without LL.



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Cosmocrator
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PostPosted: Wed 20 Jun, 2012  Reply with quote

Lucid Living is a by-product. Not necessary, but useful.


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Archery13157
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PostPosted: Wed 20 Jun, 2012  Reply with quote

Cosmocrator wrote:
Lucid Living is a by-product. Not necessary, but useful.

Just a by-product!? You must be pretty smart smile



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PostPosted: Wed 20 Jun, 2012  Reply with quote

I agree. Its meaningless to do RCs in habit. In order to really build awareness in your mind, you have to really question yourself all the time. In dreams, everything seems normal. So how do you break that? You need to question yourself and surroundings all the time. I think you can have lucid dreams without lucid living but it won't be consistent.


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PostPosted: Wed 20 Jun, 2012  Reply with quote

Yeah, I do this as much as I can. One problem, though, is remembering to stay aware while playing video games or simply browsing the internet. A lot of my dreams are of video games or something on a screen and I often find that I don't have a body and aren't aware at all during them. Also, I'm considerably less sensitive to dreamsigns because I just think anything can happen in a video game.

Does anyone have a decent way of keeping themselves fully aware and lucid living while immersed in a video game or online stuff?



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Cosmocrator
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PostPosted: Thu 21 Jun, 2012  Reply with quote

Archery13157 wrote:
Cosmocrator wrote:
Lucid Living is a by-product. Not necessary, but useful.

Just a by-product!? You must be pretty smart smile


I think you're mis-understanding me. I'm not that smart, but think about it, we won't be able to 'live' lucidly unless we are already 'dreaming' lucidly. I'm reading a book about lucid living right now, and it goes in waaayyy deeper than you could ever suspect. It's not about the dreams, it's about the Dreaming, with a capital D. It's a crazy concept I can't explain but if you do want to read about it, check out Arnold Mindells "Techniques for 24-hour Lucid Dreaming" which is not about LD in the sense that we know, but about living lucidly.



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PostPosted: Thu 21 Jun, 2012  Reply with quote

I agree, going on a weekend away with people i've never met (except one) took me out of my comfort zone, which basically made me more aware, and without trying i had a lucid dream for the first time in ages, albeit a very short one

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PostPosted: Thu 21 Jun, 2012  Reply with quote

Nivv wrote:
Yeah, I do this as much as I can. One problem, though, is remembering to stay aware while playing video games or simply browsing the internet. A lot of my dreams are of video games or something on a screen and I often find that I don't have a body and aren't aware at all during them. Also, I'm considerably less sensitive to dreamsigns because I just think anything can happen in a video game.

Does anyone have a decent way of keeping themselves fully aware and lucid living while immersed in a video game or online stuff?


I have the same thing happen to me neutral Maybe in waking life, think about what the games you know about look like, and whenever you're playing a game look to see if you recognize the scene and characters in it. Make a habit of doing this and you'll eventually do it in a dream, and therefore become lucid smile



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PostPosted: Fri 22 Jun, 2012  Reply with quote

I agree also, my reality checks are always just like going lucid IRL. My only problem is that when I get absorbed with a task I forget to disengage and evaluate my state - it's easiest for me to be lucid when just walking or something.

Back when I started, a few months ago, I would reality check by pretending I was dreaming and trying to make it seem real. It was harder in the familiar surroundings of my house, and very hard in my room. I think this was because I take these settings for granted and am less critically aware when in them.

Tibetan dream yoga is based on the concept of lucid living, constant awareness of where you are.



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Paulius
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PostPosted: Sun 24 Jun, 2012  Reply with quote

You're right about the RC's. They must be done with a thoughtful and focused mind. A RC won't make you lucid alone, a good concentration is a must. RC is just a tool. Just like IRL, you can have the tools, but without knowledge and effort, you won't get anything positive.
Lucid Living is pretty difficult if you try to do it 24\7, though the ideas of it are good and can be applied to RC's. Doing RC's should be a habbit, but you must make sure that you do these RC's in the right way.



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*Laurelindo*
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PostPosted: Tue 10 Jul, 2012  Reply with quote

The way I do Lucid Living is that I constantly ask myself what exactly it is that makes reality "real", and try to get a strong feel for how reality works.
I don't know if that's a good method, but it feels right. smile


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Archery13157
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so foolish...
PostPosted: Mon 06 Aug, 2012  Reply with quote

How foolish of me! Making remarks I have no idea about... lucid living is another step for support... not a necessity! The other techniques are perfectly effective... Should I delete this post?


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Archery13157
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PostPosted: Mon 06 Aug, 2012  Reply with quote

Paulius wrote:
You're right about the RC's. They must be done with a thoughtful and focused mind. A RC won't make you lucid alone, a good concentration is a must. RC is just a tool. Just like IRL, you can have the tools, but without knowledge and effort, you won't get anything positive.
Lucid Living is pretty difficult if you try to do it 24\7, though the ideas of it are good and can be applied to RC's. Doing RC's should be a habbit, but you must make sure that you do these RC's in the right way.


Thank you, but I was wrong... A reality check can make you lucid alone if you truly believe it will. You don't need anything else as long as you have faith that it will work; you don't have to believe it has to be done a certain way... How could I forget the first day I did a reality check?? THAT night I had my first induced lucid dream...



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Archery13157
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PostPosted: Mon 06 Aug, 2012  Reply with quote

Cosmocrator wrote:
Archery13157 wrote:
Cosmocrator wrote:
Lucid Living is a by-product. Not necessary, but useful.

Just a by-product!? You must be pretty smart smile


I think you're mis-understanding me. I'm not that smart, but think about it, we won't be able to 'live' lucidly unless we are already 'dreaming' lucidly. I'm reading a book about lucid living right now, and it goes in waaayyy deeper than you could ever suspect. It's not about the dreams, it's about the Dreaming, with a capital D. It's a crazy concept I can't explain but if you do want to read about it, check out Arnold Mindells "Techniques for 24-hour Lucid Dreaming" which is not about LD in the sense that we know, but about living lucidly.


I did mis-understand you. You we're right, it is a byproduct



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