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| Dreaming that you are out of your dream body |
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Last night I dreamed I was lying on my bed in my old apartment and suddenly I start to see through my closed eyes and I start to levitate. I started feeling strong emotions of joy that I succeeded to get out of my body (I did not know it is a dream), but it was easy to calm down (maybe because it was a dream) and after about 30 seconds I thought if I was out of body for too long I will lose its memory. So I jumped back to my dream body and I think I got up in bed (I don't remember clearly) or another dream started. The strangest thing in that dream was that when I was "out of my dream body" I was more aware in dream than usually.
Has anyone experienced something like this or tried it while lucid? It would be interesting for experienced lucid dreamers to make this kind of experiment.
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I would define it as an out-of-body-experience. It is a nice type of dream and often quite vivid. There was a discussion regarding whether you are really out of your body, or you are just dreaming about it. I would agree with the latter.
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| Posted: Mon 23 Jul, 2012 |
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Wait so do you mean you dreamed that you left your physical body? Or you had a dream where inside the dream yu left yuor dream body? Haha sorry I get confused mega easy
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| Posted: Mon 23 Jul, 2012 |
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Wait so do you mean you dreamed that you left your physical body? Or you had a dream where inside the dream yu left yuor dream body? Haha sorry I get confused mega easy |
I had a dream where inside my dream I left my dream body. It sounds quite strange  but it is how it was. I did not left my physical body. I left just my dream body. My dream simulated OBE exit.
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| Posted: Tue 24 Jul, 2012 |
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I've had dreams of having OBEs before too.
I've seen that I tend to dream about anything I focus on intensely. When I first began trying to have OBEs, I had my first dreams of OBEs.
Dreams of OBEs are difficult experiences to categorize. They're probably best thought of as false lucid dreams, unless of course you know that you're asleep and dreaming and dreaming of having an OBE (then it's simply an LD).
I've had dreams of OBEs where I've noticed that I "left my body" in a different place than I actually fell asleep. So, in those dreams, I went lucid, I guess you would say, when I noticed this. However, non-lucid dreams of OBEs are definitely more vivid than ordinary non-lucid dreams. Usually, you act as you would in an OBE. You act as if you had lucidity, but you're missing (arguably) the most crucial piece of lucidity: awareness of where you really are.
By paying attention to dreams of OBEs, I've noticed that they're phenomologically quite different from actual OBEs.
First, in dreams of OBEs (at least for me) it's ridiculously easy to "leave my body." In a dream of an OBE, I pop right out, whereas OBE exits from the waking state are much more difficult.
Second, in dreams of OBEs, just like in non-lucid dreams or lucid dreams, some form of "gravity" is usually operating on the environment. Personally, in my OBEs from a waking state, there's no gravity to speak of.
An intriguing point of view that I came across recently is that dreams (lucid or not) are really a subset of OBEs. In any dream we aren't really inhabiting our body sensorially, but we're focused away from our bodies in a mental environment. In other words, in a dream you aren't directly experiencing your body or your body's environment; you're experiencing a mental body and a mental environment. This isn't to say that all dreams are truly technically outside of the physical body--just that dreams do not have a physical sensorial focus.
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| Posted: Tue 24 Jul, 2012 |
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I had two short rather low quality LD's in a row that can relate to this. The first one was rather simple, waking up in bed, realizing it's a dream and almost leaving the room.
In the second one I found myself in the same situation except this time I was sitting on the edge of the bed next to myself. The thought of OBE's didn't cross my mind but I knew I wasn't "in" my body because it lying next to me. I woke him up and told him it was a dream, then I helped him do a RC by holding his fingers to his face. After getting him to understand I helped him leave by supporting him with his arm over my shoulder and we managed to leave the room before it ended this time.
Kinda strange to refer to myself as "him". I really don't know what to think of it. I could try and interpret it but I'll just take it at what it was.
I guess my point is that OBE's don't necessarily need a point where you "leave your body" since it really isn't your body anyway. That and just because you are having an OBE doesn't mean you can't interact with the dream.
Good luck having more LD's 
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| Posted: Tue 24 Jul, 2012 |
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| dreamosis wrote: |
First, in dreams of OBEs (at least for me) it's ridiculously easy to "leave my body." In a dream of an OBE, I pop right out, whereas OBE exits from the waking state are much more difficult.
Second, in dreams of OBEs, just like in non-lucid dreams or lucid dreams, some form of "gravity" is usually operating on the environment. Personally, in my OBEs from a waking state, there's no gravity to speak of.
An intriguing point of view that I came across recently is that dreams (lucid or not) are really a subset of OBEs. In any dream we aren't really inhabiting our body sensorially, but we're focused away from our bodies in a mental environment. In other words, in a dream you aren't directly experiencing your body or your body's environment; you're experiencing a mental body and a mental environment. This isn't to say that all dreams are truly technically outside of the physical body--just that dreams do not have a physical sensorial focus. |
The first two paragraphs make sense because if you dreaming of having an obe your probably already in rem so it seems more stable. Easier to exit, there is gravity etc.
And yes, when we dream our minds no longer experience the physical. The mind withdraws into the inner, mental world, completely separate and isolated from the outter, physical world
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