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lauris3722
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PostPosted: Tue 17 Jul, 2012  Reply with quote

I don't understand how can this work.. You get to REM in a half a hour or longer, how can you start LD by just counting to 100 in few minutes?


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PostPosted: Thu 19 Jul, 2012  Reply with quote

you sir are a genius!

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PostPosted: Fri 20 Jul, 2012  Reply with quote

If you use this tech with WBTB you could go straight into REM. You are right though, if you use this tech at the begining of the night it would be pretty much impossible because it ussually takes about an hour and a half to enter REM.


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annebelle
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PostPosted: Sat 21 Jul, 2012  Reply with quote

I read this thread a couple of days ago, and remembered it when I woke up around 4am. I read a few threads on the forum, then tried this method. I had trouble simply counting and tried the method someone mentioned about seeing a hand write the number on a chalkboard, then the other hand erasing it. That worked better, but I fell asleep. I have read about MILD, but anytime I've tried it, I simply fall asleep. I did have very vivid dreams and excellent recall this morning. In one dream, I dreamed that I was sleeping in bed in a strange room and felt myself going into an LD, but couldn't quite get there b/c when I would try a RC, it would wake me up (in my dream). I've been struggling with DR lately, so this method helped with that and I am going to keep trying. My third LD is being elusive!


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PostPosted: Sat 21 Jul, 2012  Reply with quote

I think I'll use it tonight. But I'll count slowly. Will this be the lucky card draw?

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PostPosted: Sat 21 Jul, 2012  Reply with quote

Hi there. I want to try this technique, but I have a small problem. I can't wake up at night. I don't hear an alarm clock. Do you know what's the reason?

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PostPosted: Sat 21 Jul, 2012  Reply with quote

You don't even have mini-waking ups? Nothing? I wake up normally every few hours every night.

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PostPosted: Sat 21 Jul, 2012  Reply with quote

If I want to be sure to wake up around 3-4am, I drink a big glass of water right before bed. Never fails! Luckily, I'm not a bed wetter. grin


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PostPosted: Sat 21 Jul, 2012  Reply with quote

I do not remember any mini-waking ups
of the night. I used to wake up
at night to the WILD try, but now I
can not


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PostPosted: Sat 21 Jul, 2012  Reply with quote

That sounds strange. Maybe you don't remember it? I don't know what you could try, other than someone else who hears alarm clocks and wakes you up. Or a really close and loud alarm.

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PostPosted: Sat 21 Jul, 2012  Reply with quote

Emm... I have got really loud alarm in phone, which lies under a pillow, so...smile I don't know what to do.

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PostPosted: Sun 12 Aug, 2012  Reply with quote

Wow I never expected this thread to take off. I haven't tried the technique, so it is still pretty unrefined.

This technique originally for me was just for when I woke up in the night unententionally, this will vary on how often it happens for each person. I can't use an alarm in the night because of my parents living in the house, hence I have never tried it by forcing myself to wake up, however I guess that it would work the same.

To answer lauris because you have just woken up then you can fall asleep again very quickly (within 5 seconds.), and if you can continue to count in your mind whilst your body has fallen asleep you have succeeded in the basics of WILD, by opening your eyes and doing an RC you are trying to force your body into a false awakening.

I will try and answer any more questions in a minute, I just have to go off and do something for the next hour, will type more after that.


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PostPosted: Mon 13 Aug, 2012  Reply with quote

lauris3722 wrote:
I don't understand how can this work.. You get to REM in a half a hour or longer, how can you start LD by just counting to 100 in few minutes?

When you wake up in the morning you can fall back to REM sleep very quickly (we're talking seconds here), so theoretically the counting can keep you aware until you have fallen asleep again. grin


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PostPosted: Tue 14 Aug, 2012  Reply with quote

Small question...How fast do we have to count? I read that someone simply counted their breathes up to 100...But I'm not sure. I tries it that way and at around 60 I started to feel my heart beating faster. But I also think that I stayed up too much when I woke up...

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PostPosted: Tue 14 Aug, 2012  Reply with quote

Miza wrote:
Small question...How fast do we have to count? I read that someone simply counted their breathes up to 100...But I'm not sure. I tries it that way and at around 60 I started to feel my heart beating faster. But I also think that I stayed up too much when I woke up...


I just count seconds, counting breaths could be a possible problem as it is a connection with your physical body and stop you falling asleep.

I have had the most success doing it as soon as I wake up in the night, not waiting any time atall, when I do that it works after only about 20 seconds, if I try and count any longer than that I tend to just fall asleep while still counting.


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