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PostPosted: Sat 25 May, 2013  Reply with quote

Hmmmm... i think it's a brilliant idea, still, i can't stop wondering what would happen if you would set "sleep in real life 1 year" . What would happen ?


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PostPosted: Wed 29 May, 2013  Reply with quote

I don't think very much would happen. My guess would be it would give you an error message or similar, you wouldn't really sleep a year. I'm not an expert on this, however, so someone with more experience would probably give better information.


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PostPosted: Thu 24 Apr, 2014  Reply with quote

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So I recently heard about this dream clock idea and how it's supposed to work but what I read about it was quite vague. If anyone could clear this up for me and if it actually works that'd be fantastic! Thank you!



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PostPosted: Thu 24 Apr, 2014  Reply with quote

Do you mean something like the dream clock that WritersCube uses? That link will take you to his own explanation on the subject.


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PostPosted: Thu 24 Apr, 2014  Reply with quote

I though about something similare with that ! Like a watch that you have on your hand with no numbers and no time... Just a black screen and when the dream will almost end ! The watch start biping and being red or whatever ! Something that tells you that the dream is almost over ! And grab something in the dream to make it longer ! Or if the sound doesnt stop, then enjoy your last moments in the dream, like saying good bye to one of your DCs that you spent almost the half of the time in the dream etc... I though it was an intresting thing that i will experience ^_^


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PostPosted: Fri 25 Apr, 2014  Reply with quote

Has anyone tried using this dreamclock besides writerscube and was successful in doing so? And does he even come on here anymore?


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PostPosted: Sat 26 Apr, 2014  Reply with quote

Bazanikins wrote:
Has anyone tried using this dreamclock besides writerscube and was successful in doing so? And does he even come on here anymore?


I did use it once but it didn't work the way he described it. Well it was some time ago and it did look similar to what I designed in photoshop. Although I'm afraid that the dream clock is a faulty concept because one cannot dream let's say 7 hours straight because of our sleep cycles which cycle repeatedly in intervals of approx 90 minutes which means that you can't technically dream in one piece longer then approx 90 minutes which is in theory even shorter period of time.

Well if you wondered here's my concept design of the dream clock. I still think it's a great tool but not for controlling the time. I guess you could bet on faulty dream logic and you could expend somehow the time you stay in the dream but still that time wouldn't be longer then actual 90 minutes from waking life. I guess it's one of the dreams where you dreamt that you where somewhere for days and when you woke up, only few minutes passed...



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PostPosted: Sun 27 Apr, 2014  Reply with quote

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Bazanikins wrote:
Has anyone tried using this dreamclock besides writerscube and was successful in doing so? And does he even come on here anymore?


I did use it once but it didn't work the way he described it. Well it was some time ago and it did look similar to what I designed in photoshop. Although I'm afraid that the dream clock is a faulty concept because one cannot dream let's say 7 hours straight because of our sleep cycles which cycle repeatedly in intervals of approx 90 minutes which means that you can't technically dream in one piece longer then approx 90 minutes which is in theory even shorter period of time.

Well if you wondered here's my concept design of the dream clock. I still think it's a great tool but not for controlling the time. I guess you could bet on faulty dream logic and you could expend somehow the time you stay in the dream but still that time wouldn't be longer then actual 90 minutes from waking life. I guess it's one of the dreams where you dreamt that you where somewhere for days and when you woke up, only few minutes passed...
So then lets say that you put in your said dreamclock [60 mins real time = 1 week dream time]. Since you'll actually be able to dream for 60 mins straight, would you be able to be in the dream for a week?



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PostPosted: Sun 27 Apr, 2014  Reply with quote

Bazanikins wrote:
dB_FTS wrote:
Bazanikins wrote:
Has anyone tried using this dreamclock besides writerscube and was successful in doing so? And does he even come on here anymore?


I did use it once but it didn't work the way he described it. Well it was some time ago and it did look similar to what I designed in photoshop. Although I'm afraid that the dream clock is a faulty concept because one cannot dream let's say 7 hours straight because of our sleep cycles which cycle repeatedly in intervals of approx 90 minutes which means that you can't technically dream in one piece longer then approx 90 minutes which is in theory even shorter period of time.

Well if you wondered here's my concept design of the dream clock. I still think it's a great tool but not for controlling the time. I guess you could bet on faulty dream logic and you could expend somehow the time you stay in the dream but still that time wouldn't be longer then actual 90 minutes from waking life. I guess it's one of the dreams where you dreamt that you where somewhere for days and when you woke up, only few minutes passed...
So then lets say that you put in your said dreamclock [60 mins real time = 1 week dream time]. Since you'll actually be able to dream for 60 mins straight, would you be able to be in the dream for a week?


Theoretically yes if you go by the code that in a dream everything is possible. But in the dream everything is strictly related to a dreamer. So if you are able to make yourself stay in the dream for a week then this clock will work but the clock won't make you dream for a week you will.

BUT and this is a big BUT I think that you could fool yourself because the brain does that all the time in dreams and maybe this theory will not apply to you or someone else. Maybe it's good to act stupid in a dream and if you are able to make/find dream clock just tell your self that you will dream for a week and see where it takes you.

Although I would start with shorter period of time. Try something easier not the whole week at the beginning.



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PostPosted: Sun 27 Apr, 2014  Reply with quote

Lol yea 1 week is too much for the beginning ^^ we should start with a hour and then 2 then a day etc... But i though about if we set up 1 week for exemple we can still wake up because someone woke us up or waking up by excitement. It can't be perfect.


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PostPosted: Sun 27 Apr, 2014  Reply with quote

WasPeace wrote:
Lol yea 1 week is too much for the beginning ^^ we should start with a hour and then 2 then a day etc... But i though about if we set up 1 week for exemple we can still wake up because someone woke us up or waking up by excitement. It can't be perfect.


You have to keep in mind when you are dreaming for a week that means that you will have a feeling that you dreamt for a week and with faulty dream logic that is possible. You mind will fill the gaps between only few experiences that you will actually experience and by doing that you will have a feeling that you dreamt for a week or some longer time then usual!



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PostPosted: Sun 27 Apr, 2014  Reply with quote

WritersCube?

How do you retain your sleep, i mean converting the actual real time you spend sleeping, to a time you want to spend inside of the dream environment is one thing.

But your body actually needs to be asleep for the amount of time to reach the amount of time you with to spend inside of your environment.

I tried using the dream clock, i imagine a watch appearing on my right arm, and i program the time as you suggest.

But i always wake up none the less. Because of real life disturbance (Birds kweeking) drills reaching through the walls, workers playing with fire on the roof, whatever.

Do you have like some sound-proof bedroom?
I always wake up because of those disturbances ! Annoying!



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PostPosted: Sun 27 Apr, 2014  Reply with quote

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But i always wake up none the less. Because of real life disturbance (Birds kweeking) drills reaching through the walls, workers playing with fire on the roof, whatever.

Do you have like some sound-proof bedroom?
I always wake up because of those disturbances ! Annoying!


That's what i meant! You can still be woke up by something in real life! cry



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PostPosted: Sun 27 Apr, 2014  Reply with quote

WasPeace wrote:
Xaren wrote:
But i always wake up none the less. Because of real life disturbance (Birds kweeking) drills reaching through the walls, workers playing with fire on the roof, whatever.

Do you have like some sound-proof bedroom?
I always wake up because of those disturbances ! Annoying!


That's what i meant! You can still be woke up by something in real life! cry


That is really ours kryptonite because REM cycle in which we dream the most becomes longer as we sleep longer but as we sleep longer we are more easily awoken. It really is something with which we need to struggle and hope that there will be no one that will wake us up...

Even though when you do woke up by that disturbance you need to train yourself to stay calm and by doing that you could achieve DEILD or chaining as it usually called. Sometimes those awakening can do wonders for us because maybe we are to lazy to do WBTB intentionally but this disturbance is actually our unintentional WBTB which we need to use to our advantage...



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PostPosted: Sun 27 Apr, 2014  Reply with quote

dB_FTS wrote:
That is really ours kryptonite because REM cycle in which we dream the most becomes longer as we sleep longer but as we sleep longer we are more easily awoken. It really is something with which we need to struggle and hope that there will be no one that will wake us up...

Even though when you do woke up by that disturbance you need to train yourself to stay calm and by doing that you could achieve DEILD or chaining as it usually called. Sometimes those awakening can do wonders for us because maybe we are to lazy to do WBTB intentionally but this disturbance is actually our unintentional WBTB which we need to use to our advantage...

Chaining is really easy for me, i have mastered the WILD Technique for a few years now.

I've even come close to WILDing in Non-Rem (Like when i go to bed at night, i directly attempt a WILD)

Only succeeded once till now though, it is "A L O T" harder than in REM.
But its still annoying being woken up all the time.
Being able to chain 9/10 LD's in a row is not taking that frustration away...



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