if someone tells me to think of a tree i see a tree i dont see the word.
BTW how long dos it take every1 to reach HI/SP stage?
sometimes i wake myself up by laughing… often times becuase my HH are cartoon related,and when you are almost asleep things don’t have to be funny to make you laugh, it’s just a reflex…
sometiems i’ll go into SP or have an insane OBE where I’m LAUGHING like freaking crazy and I can’t stop and I’m falling to the floor and losing control of myself.
When I had surgery on a broken arm the nurses told me I liked the anesthesia and was laughing like crazy, but all I remember is what I’d equate to being hit in the face with an HI hammer and rapidly entering SP, then losing consciousness.
Im not sure if these are HIs…but If I ever in the dark press my fingers against my eyelids I dont only see colours but I can actually see the outlines of my fingers that are all black expect the outline is multicoloured… and also if i switch fingers and stuff or move them around I can clearly see my fingers switching from under my eyelids…its really weird…and if I ever wake up IN THE DARK…usually after an LD I see all these purple and blue colours all over my room…also ive had many times whered Id be like half asleep an hear a crazyy ass noise thatll just scare me an wake me up…I dunno are these HIs? or no…
HarlemWorld:
I dont think that what you see by pushing your fingers against your eyelids is hypnogogic imagery, but rather your eyes reaction to the unnatural pressure.
The purple and blue colors, i get that all the time, pretty much every night if i notice it in the dark. I dont have a clue as to whether or not it is hypnogogic imagery. Something tells me its like my energy or something, or maybe my brainwaves. Im pretty sure its not sensory input from the outside, because i can see it w/ eyes closed, and its easier to see in the dark, and when my eyes are open, its more like a filmy ocean superimposed upon all i see. Its pretty damn cool looking!
The sound that wakes you up, i am fairly sure is hypnogogic hallucination. I get this all the time and its annoying, but also cool in that it saves me from wasting the night, having fallen asleep. For me, it is usually accompanied by very hard to remember glimpses of imagery as well.
I get more HI when I try to sleep during the day. For example I was at my GFs house yesterday sitting on the floor while we where watching a movie and I was dosing off. Slowly I could see through my eyelids. I mean the HI turned into me sitting in the room. I wasn’t sleeping yet, but the HI was very stable.
I wonder why this doesn’t happen so easily when i goto bed at night?
Sentient: Once I had DC that told em the difference between waking and dream is the color beneath your eye lids. Once the black turns to a purple you are sleeping. I’m not 100% sure if this is true, but it was cool that a DC told me this (to help me with my WILD/FA).
Those colors you see when you press on your eyelids are not hypnagogic imagery. You’re actually seeing the pressuring you’re applying - it’s a sensory crossover, of sorts.
Yep, this isn’t HI, it’s just what ppl use to describe what HI is like, it looks exactly the same. So no pressing your eyelids as you’re trying to sleep! lol. I did this when I couldn’t be bothered to read up on WILD lol
that’s weird, i’d be so angry yet happy if i have been dreaming of trying to WILD the whole time… but RCs tend to fail if I decide to do them “knowing” i’m not dreaming… and I can see purple pretty easily within 5-10 minutes of lying down.
Those crazy DCs.
i can be walikng outside or doing just normal stuf, and i hear hypna sounds 
like high pitched sounds and stuff…kinda wierd…parhapps im living between reality and dreaming? haha
Of course, the whole thing’s just about concepts, but I also understand that hypnagogic images are not the flashy colours you see after you close your eyes or push your eyelids with your fingers. I understand those are some kind of residual images on your retinas, but I’m not entirely sure.
I always understood hypnagogic images as the thoughts that seem to get carried away by themselves when you’re just about to fall asleep. I developed an awareness for these during the last few years. It actually feels like a thought taking off by itself, living its own life. Then the realization of what’s happening wakes me up, otherwise I would fall asleep I guess.
Since I have yet to achieve lucidity, my greatest dream-related experience happened during the hypnagogic state. Otherwise my consciousness was “black” but I started to hear music. I had never heard that piece before, but it was very vivid. It had its own life, changed to another part, had soft drums, some nice guitar melodies and a warm hammond-sound. I could actually spot chords it terms of major and minor. I was very excited especially when the song kept on going even when I had awareness of it. I promised myself to remember all that and make a song out of it. Of course, it was all gone by tomorrow.
That’s how composing music got to my “must do when lucid”-list.
Sometimes, when I just lay still in my bed, thinking, I hear a strange sound (man talking, people shouting, beeps and stuff like that) that makes me forget about what I thought about in the last 5-10 minutes, even though I can recall everything I did during the same period.
Very frustrating…can anyone tell me what this is? I think it may sound like HS, but I am not sure.
The sounds only lasts for less than a second. It never happens in day-time. So I just thought that it might be a good idea to ask in this thred, since it’s about HI/HS.
Hearing sounds such as people talking or shouting is considered HI, if I am correct. That happens to me as well when I am about to fall asleep. The more tired I am, the quicker they begin and the more vivid they are.
Yeah…but what when they partly erase your memory? 
Haven’t heard anything about that mentioned anywhere…
So…has it happened to anyone else? Or am I the only one?
I don’t believe I’ve ever experienced that. The only way I can relate is that I often forget what people say and other details very quickly, which is why I never choose to post any Hypnagogic Imagery in my dream diary. 
So it’s just me then? Well, it’s not like you said, because I forget all my normal thoughts for the last 5-10 minutes as well. And every time I get this feeling that I thought of something important…
Thanks anyway 
Do you mean permanently erased?
When you are at the stage of getting strong HI things can get confusing. Yes, you might forget something you were thinking about or start having strange thoughts and illogical ideas. Also when you wake up you my not be able to recall everting or anything you experienced during that time.
I agree with milod789. It’s not easy to remember what happened during the hypnagogic state.
Yes, permanently erased…
I don’t even get HI, I get the vibrations, but I don’t think I can remember having them lately…
And the thoughts don’t just disappear through a relativetly long time, but just in a split second.
Tonight, it appeared as a electronic bolt…and my thougths (pre-hypnagogic thoughts) vanished.
I am still not clear on what you mean by erased or how you would know that something was erased.
I think what is happening is that you are slipping through the hynogia so fast (which can happen) that you did not get HI, vibration etc or, you did but it happened so fast that you did not even notice it. Then you found yourself starting a dream fully lucid. Because you thought you should have experienced X symptom of WILD you just think those experiences were erased.
WILD is different for everyone. Everyone will each have different experiences when they practice WILD. Some get vivid HI others heavy vibrations and so on. Yet others will find themselfs just suddenly in a dream fully lucid with no symptoms. Keep in mind that there is no rule that says you will experience X symptom. I have had various WILD experiences that varied greatly. Don’t conclude that just because you did not experience X that it was “erased”. I could just be that you did not get X this time or you did and simply forgot it.
Anyway, I hope that was clear.
Well, when I said ‘pre-hypnagogic’ I meant the normal thoughts I have, even before attempting WILD. I can think about my day at school, the future etc, but it wasn’t the H* phase that was ‘erased’, it was my normal thoughts 
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When I say erased, I mean that I can not remember anything of what I’ve been thinking! (The last 5-10 minutes).
I can think back and maybe remember what I thought of 20 minutes ago, but usually (when it isn’t ‘erased’) I can just follow the first thought onto the other…wich I can’t do when this happens.
Thanks for all the help, you’re really nice people ^^
I guess it’s natural, maybe it’s my minds way of telling me ‘Go to sleep!’ 