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#1: All new techniques Author: StEvE21 PostPosted: Wed 14 Sep, 2005
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I was going through all of the posts, trying to find a certain tech. I read about earlier, but i cant find it...
I think it would be a good idea for everyone who made a new technique or a variation on WILD/MILD to post the name of their topic in here so everyone knows where to find them.

#2:  Author: Qu PostPosted: Sat 17 Sep, 2005
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good idea.

for now i could find this: (alphabetical order)

Hagart's HILD
MILD/WILD related, instead of focusing on HI, move your fingers while getting back to sleep.

Pedro's VILD
Visually Incubated LD

Siiw's WILD variation
Combining HI and visualisation to WILD

Xetrov's WILD variation
WILDing after several hours of sleep, spinning around your axis.


Last edited by Qu on Mon 19 Sep, 2005; edited 2 times in total

#3:  Author: Siiw PostPosted: Sat 17 Sep, 2005
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I think hild and vild fits perfectly in here! siiw and what about atheist's mirc speech?

#4:  Author: StEvE21 PostPosted: Sun 18 Sep, 2005
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Hopefully this could save a lot of time for people who are having trouble with the usual methods and need to find different variations

I dont know how many people have had good results with these, but there is also the "Mental scream method" and another one that i cant rmember the name of or find, but it involves focusing on a small object and counting, and then while falling asleep visualizing that image and counting again.

#5:  Author: Basilus West PostPosted: Mon 19 Sep, 2005
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I would like to wait for more precisions 293 could bring and more result returns, before inserting his "Mental scream method" here.

#6:  Author: StEvE21 PostPosted: Mon 19 Sep, 2005
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Ok...Where is 293?
I thought (s)he was going to make a complete guide on this method...

#7:  Author: lucidboy PostPosted: Fri 23 Sep, 2005
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TOYE
This is one of the new techniques by myself; although it wasn't that succesful but at least would be nice to see it on the list at least. smile

#8:  Author: StEvE21 PostPosted: Fri 23 Sep, 2005
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tryfly No offense, but it doesnt look like TOYE went anywhere
I meant for this to be a list where people could easily find the effective techniques all in one spot

#9:  Author: lucidboy PostPosted: Fri 23 Sep, 2005
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StEvE21 wrote:
tryfly No offense, but it doesnt look like TOYE went anywhere
I meant for this to be a list where people could easily find the effective techniques all in one spot

I know, i just wanted some credit sadblauw ... cry

#10:  Author: StEvE21 PostPosted: Fri 23 Sep, 2005
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lol
well... it was creative at least smile

#11:  Author: lucidboy PostPosted: Fri 23 Sep, 2005
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StEvE21 wrote:
lol
well... it was creative at least smile

Yeah, i wonder if through LDs you can get ideas like that or for other purposes.

#12:  Author: Cairn PostPosted: Sun 06 Nov, 2005
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MELD/CRCILD
Memory Enhanced Lucid Dream/Colour Reality Check Induced Lucid Dream

This is a great method, I swear by it.

#13:  Author: Animahngo PostPosted: Sun 06 Nov, 2005
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I just posted about those. You know that both are just the regular RC method?

#14:  Author: Cairn PostPosted: Mon 07 Nov, 2005
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No they are not JUST the regular RC method while they are a RC method they are a better version, involving linking RCs to very common occurances to make it sure you will do a RC in your dream.

You can call them what you like but they work, so I don't really mind what people call them. I will still use them and I will still attribute LDs to them.

#15:  Author: Animahngo PostPosted: Mon 07 Nov, 2005
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But they are JUST the regular version. Look under RCing on the main site an it will say to pick a comon occurence to RC on, and RC on on the strange occurences...



Also, I was thinking, and decided that the mantra isn't really a new technique, just a way to WILD, so, yeah, no OILD, just WILD with a mantra.

#16:  Author: Basilus West PostPosted: Tue 29 Nov, 2005
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When you have a new technique, I think it would be far better to post a new topic in the "Quest for lucidity" forum, and put a link toward it here. So that we can easily discuss about this technique in the corresponding topic.

By the way, here was the goal of this thread (excerpt of the first post):
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I think it would be a good idea for everyone who made a new technique or a variation on WILD/MILD to post the name of their topic in here so everyone knows where to find them.

I'll do some cleaning in this thread when I'll have a little more time.

#17:  Author: StEvE21 PostPosted: Tue 29 Nov, 2005
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Thats exactly what I meant. If everyone keeps talking about the new techniques in here, they will just get lost in all of the replies.

#18:  Author: Animahngo PostPosted: Wed 30 Nov, 2005
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Err, sorry. Okay, I'll make a topic; 'Chilla's new techniques/variations'. I'll do it when I get home from school...

#19:  Author: Basilus West PostPosted: Fri 02 Dec, 2005
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Links towards new techniques threads:
CDILD and other Chilla's techniques and variations

#20:  Author: Netopalis PostPosted: Fri 06 Jan, 2006
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New Method - OILD: http://ld4all.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=220960#220960

#21:  Author: dunlar PostPosted: Mon 13 Feb, 2006
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Well, it's not new anymore, but here's mine...

Chaining (also known as wake-up-and-don't-move)

#22:  Author: Julian Iron PostPosted: Mon 13 Feb, 2006
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I think this technique is also known as the "dream re-entry technique"... ^^

Works amazingly well when you wake up from an LD, I had a lot of serial LDs thanks to this technique. grin

Although if you abuse it, you sort of lose the memories of your first LDs.

I really believe this technique should be explain clearly and then be sticky...

#23:  Author: Basilus West PostPosted: Mon 13 Feb, 2006
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Thank you dunlar for pointing this technique out. I didn't know you invented it. I was calling it the dream reentry technique, but I wonder now if it is exactly the same.

Anyway, here is the link towards the DRT:

The Dream Reentry technique

#24:  Author: Basilus West PostPosted: Tue 21 Feb, 2006
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Need to be mentioned. A very strange technique: the BUBILD technique. Means for the Butt Ugly Beard Induction of Lucid Dreams! lachtraan

#25:  Author: Tggtt PostPosted: Wed 22 Mar, 2006
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Basilus West wrote:
Need to be mentioned. A very strange technique: the BUBILD technique. Means for the Butt Ugly Beard Induction of Lucid Dreams! lachtraan


Hahahahahhah!
I made some techniques really stupid BUT NOT like that one!! (I didn't think they are worth a topic).

Most Stupid Tggtt Techniques

#26:  Author: Wyvern PostPosted: Sun 26 Mar, 2006
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http://ld4all.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=17348

Yayness. I get to post here. I'll call this technique.

SHILD

Self-hypnotism induced lucid dream

#27:  Author: Ysim PostPosted: Sun 14 May, 2006
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YILD
(Ysim's Induction for Lucid Dreams)

It's really just a variation of WILD, but it's easier and more effective for me then any other WILD technique I've read. Good luck everyone! ^^

#28:  Author: Undefined PostPosted: Wed 07 Jun, 2006
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My RILD technique: RILD

#29:  Author: grasswar PostPosted: Sun 02 Jul, 2006
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<mod>Post edited. The same message was posted in two different locations. I just kept the summary here and added the link towards it.</mod>

This technique is used to prolong lucid dreams and is especially helpful to the people who can't seem to stay in a dream but a few secs or minutes. I call it the breathing technique.

Prolonging tech: the breathing technique

#30:  Author: Basilus West PostPosted: Wed 02 Aug, 2006
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I add a link towards this new technique here so that it won't be lost amongst other threads:
Combining HI and visualisation to WILD

#31:  Author: Basilus West PostPosted: Thu 14 Sep, 2006
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A link towards the Reflexion-intention technique, as it was defined by Paul Tholey and refined by Stephen Laberge. It's something mixing RC's and a sort of MILD.

#32:  Author: Basilus West PostPosted: Tue 24 Oct, 2006
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The Cycle adjustement technique.

At first sight, it's not really an induction technique but a sort of diet in order to adjust the mind-body cycles in a way that creates an improved environment for LD'ing.

#33:  Author: Basilus West PostPosted: Sun 12 Nov, 2006
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I noticed that the Hand technique was not mentionned here. overspannen It's not really a new technique, cause it was very famous in the 80's and many people learned to LD with it. It may be called too the Castaneda technique, the Don Juan technique, the finding your hands technique, etc.

It's very simple indeed. You just wink have to find your hands in dreams. Do as you want.
Hand method.

#34:  Author: Tggtt PostPosted: Sun 12 Nov, 2006
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StantheGarbageMan told about it in Magic Fingers, and you must have merged the topics ^^ .
By the way, I've posted here months ago, and it's still in the last page... this topic was kinda forgotten...
I'm working in another techniques, but I'm more excited about a new way to improve DR I did.

I've succeded in 3 techs I've done the last months I've been around.
One is a WILD like which you try to get up from bed, to your dream to waste less time possible, along with DC summoning it was great.
Another one is about a signs and notes. Everytime you wake up during the night look at the mirror and write it down (for counting later), it helps at reality checks, you will see that you can have more FAs than you think, lately I've suceeded in some DILDs.
The last one is a bit weird too, it's a WILD which forces yourself to sleep faster, with hyperventilation, with some full breaths you will be asleep before forgetting to WILD.

#35:  Author: Basilus West PostPosted: Sun 12 Nov, 2006
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Yes indeed, I've merged the topics. And I posted about this technique too. My post is perhaps in the archive now.

If you develop new techniques, you can do a special thread about each of them, and add there a post linking to this thread with a brief summary.

#36:  Author: Az343 PostPosted: Tue 09 Jan, 2007
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I am not sure weather or not this tequnique is on here but here goes. Well it isnt a tequnique on its own it just helps relaxation and can be used in conjunction with WILD or trance states. Basically it is called Tactile imaging (excuse the spelling) this tequnique was made by Robert Bruce a very experience Mystic and OBE'er (his book astral dynamics is reeeeeeellly good0
Basically when you have taken about 20 deep breaths and feel rather setteled you imagine yourself climbing down a rope. or climng up (climing up is usually used for a consious exit OBE but thats another story entirelly)
anyways you do not actually visulise any images as such as for example you would if you were imagining your self walking down a srairs insted you imagine feeling yourself falling. This tricks the sub-consious in to triggering the sleep mechanism hence you enter a trance wich is where the hypnagogic(spelling sorry) imagery used in WILD tequnique is seen.
To sum up
1) Using a breath tequnique such as breath awareness get comfortable and proceed with around 20 deep breaths

2) Imagine yourself climbing down a rope in the darkness
do not see the rope only try to feel it

3) After a while you should enter a Trance/ deep metatative state (try to hold your thoughts steady, whilst climbing i recomend you focus on your breathing)

4) you should evencully see the hypnagogic imagery and perhaps feel vibrations
(These vibrations are energy movement in the etheic / energy body)

5) You should then be able to enter a LD

NOTE : deep physicall relaxation is recomended a hot bath(optional ovcource) and some basic streaching and tensing is usually adequate.

I hope this tequnique works for you. Good Luck

Az

#37:  Author: Duck PostPosted: Tue 09 Jan, 2007
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Az343 wrote:

1) Using a breath tequnique such as breath awareness get comfortable and proceed with around 20 deep breaths

2) Imagine yourself climbing down a rope in the darkness
do not see the rope only try to feel it

3) After a while you should enter a Trance/ deep metatative state (try to hold your thoughts steady, whilst climbing i recomend you focus on your breathing)

4) you should evencully see the hypnagogic imagery and perhaps feel vibrations
(These vibrations are energy movement in the etheic / energy body)

5) You should then be able to enter a LD

It's a typical WILD, but there is used another way to keep consciousness. I have been trying this few times, when i was more in OoBE than in LD's. Diffrence was that instead of entering LD, i kept trying to get out of my body (which never worked BTW). But there is actually no matter of way of keeping consciousness, effect is one: abitily of getting LD, OoBE and propably another effect we don't know.

Basilus West wrote:
Need to be mentioned. A very strange technique: the BUBILD technique. Means for the Butt Ugly Beard Induction of Lucid Dreams! lachtraan


grin LOL I wish I saw that one before... which don't means i'm gonna use it lachgroen

#38:  Author: Az343 PostPosted: Thu 11 Jan, 2007
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sorry my OBE side came in to play there lol oh and the reason you could not get out of your body is proboblly because of chakras and other energy body aspects unfortunatlly OBE is sooo much more complex than lucid dreaming however i am not stating that lucid dreaming is inferior ovcource.
Anyway that tequnique is ment for trance induction it can induce a concious exit OBE however to achieve an LD you need to be in the same state as the 3rd state of OBE wich is hypnagogic imagery. But yeah as i mention it is simplly a trance induction tequnique it actully come from robert bruce as stated above. For a referance as also mentiond above it come from the book "astral dynamics a new approach to outer body experience" if you are intrested i highlly recomed you get a copy. as also stated above lol i think i might be repeating my see a wee bit.

#39:  Author: Duck PostPosted: Thu 11 Jan, 2007
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I was interested in OBE AP thing for some time, but I think it's pretty dangerous stuff to mess and play with. I got more interested in lucid dreaming then, that was more like a side effect of OoBE for me.

As I said, keeping consciousness is way to enter weird state of HH, SP, buzz in ears, etc. You can both enter into LD, or leave your body then. So, vaiation of WILD you showed is fully able to do, there is no thing you should be sorry about. smile

#40:  Author: Jayster PostPosted: Thu 11 Jan, 2007
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Im almost a complete newbie to LD but I do agree with the last comment.OBE's are way to scary to be messing about with. I have read horror stories of people who have been know to practice OBE's regularly,and found in comas never to wake up again.There is always that chance of not being able to return to your body.Id stick with LD

#41:  Author: Win Laik Pya PostPosted: Thu 11 Jan, 2007
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well, im not worried. If i can get good enough at LDing tht i would want to try AP i will, sounds like mad fun!

#42:  Author: Jayster PostPosted: Thu 11 Jan, 2007
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This has never worked for me, but about six years ago I had a friend who was into LD. He used to pull at his hair at the base of his neck until it was tingling a little sore just before he settled down to sleep. He said that he'd read it somewhere that there was somekind of accupressure point here,and by stimulating it in this way produce him LD almost every night.
As previously mentioned however,this has not worked for me,and just given me a sore neck.
Give it a try and post your results,id like to know if it actually works for anyone else

#43:  Author: Az343 PostPosted: Fri 12 Jan, 2007
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Ok people you know about the OBE being dangerous that theory is completelly flawed in every way from the point of where people think that when you astral project you leave an empty shell that is incrediblly false. I must admit that it is what most people think but i would like to tell you that it is completelly safe and we do it every night ok
Firstlly the word projection dose not mean that one entirelly leaves ones body it means you simplly Project on to the astral plane. This happens whilst your Master copy of consiousness is still safe inside your body either sleeping or awake . After one has there "projection experience" there memories are downloaded in to what we call shadow memories. This is because during a projection we are recording up to 3 consiouss fully awake copies of ourself and our linier minds cannot cope with this. That is why during a projection you can sometimes feel your physicall bodies etc.
However i bet now your thinking well give me some evidence lol. Well there is something called the astral feed back phenomenon this is where the astral body is gallovanting around the astral plane and the etheic body is still away and had obtained some degree or real time site (the ability to see the astral plane i am sure that when all you fine people have been meditating you have expierienced real time astral sight. This mean you can see through closed eyelids. and say look to the side of yourself without even physically moving. Well thats astral sight. Now the crazy part is where your astral body comes in to the room and you both see each other. This can be if your domminont awareness is in your etheic body or your astral body, And remember there are 2 copies of you thinking. so what happenes when say your awareness is in your physicall body and your astral body has awlready projected you see your astral body through your etheic eyes but your astral body sees you at the same time. And presto it becomes like when you put a mirror to another miror and they split it to an infinate patten. This is called the astral feedback phenomenon. I tell you what this post proboblly has a lot of spelling mistakes lol and it is not clear so what i will do is either make a new topic and try to get my word and proof that Atral Projection is safe to the entire forum or just post my result clear but at the min i have revise for a maths exam lol that why i am in such a hurry typing this lol.
Ok byeee i hope you understood all that ^^

#44:  Author: Kit PostPosted: Fri 12 Jan, 2007
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Az343 wrote:
Ok people you know about the OBE being dangerous that theory is completelly flawed in every way from the point of where people think that when you astral project you leave an empty shell that is incrediblly false. I must admit that it is what most people think but i would like to tell you that it is completelly safe and we do it every night ok
Firstlly the word projection dose not mean that one entirelly leaves ones body it means you simplly Project on to the astral plane. This happens whilst your Master copy of consiousness is still safe inside your body either sleeping or awake


You've been reading Robert Bruce. Don't assume people believe or don't believe something. You don't know who we are, you don't know what we think. It may sound rude, but I find people who say things like this incredibly offensive and annoying.

#45:  Author: Az343 PostPosted: Fri 12 Jan, 2007
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i am sorry if i offended you. and i did not mean it in an abrupt way, you see i was typing in a hurry lol i had come on the computer for a bit and i needed to go to school for an exam so i was typing really fast. Also without looking at my text from different perspectives to see if anyone would find it hmm shall we say vulger. Oh and i am trully sorry about the asumptions thing i know how annoying it can be. Dont worry i am not usually like that.
But i must say the i am a firm believer on the robert bruces theories . Oh btw and i have tested them myself and anaylised them from a logical point of view
(i would like to be physicst anyway so i do try and bisect theorys and see if the are plausable that applies to physical and metaphysical alike)
Oh and btw i am not expecting you to believe me if you dont like or do not think the theory is plausable . That is if you thought that i expected you to.

#46:  Author: bandog PostPosted: Mon 15 Jan, 2007
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But they are JUST the regular version. Look under RCing on the main site an it will say to pick a comon occurence to RC on, and RC on on the strange occurences...

I see very distinct differences
1. this technique involves selecting an occurrence that happens MUCH more frequently than those previously outlined in other techniques. Face it - no matter how vigilant you are, you are not going to check your watch 50 times per day for days on end - but you most definitely WILL see the colour green 50 times or more per day. For people having difficulty attaining the LD state, this method of triggering a reminder to perform the RC is very effective, if you ask me.
Furthermore, most RC's involve "purposely" and with intent, looking at or for something ... then performing an RC (i.e., checking your watch throughout the day). This technique almost performs itself - all you have to do is the RC itself each and every time the trigger presents itself, which will happen very frequently throughout each and every day.
2. I'm not sure whether or not the author of this technique came up with holding nose and attempting to breathe through it, but it's flawless, and it fits perfectly - it's a simple action, and the results are 100% effective, as we all know that it is simply not possible to breathe through a completely obstructed nose.
3. The combination of the high frequency of the trigger and this specific RC seems incredibly effective.
Bravo to the member who initiated it! :D



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