Character Assisted Lucid Dreaming - CALD Part III
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#1: Character Assisted Lucid Dreaming - CALD Part III Author: Talon Arana PostPosted: Fri 22 Jun, 2007
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If you're confused, the main CALD technique information is found on the first page of part one:
http://ld4all.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=368581
There are links and descriptions there that will help clear up any confusion. ^^~ Otherwise, I'd be happy to answer any remaining questions :3.

~Tal


Mecha wrote:
altheman9993: No, from what I understand they just need some kind of essence or defining quality about them. A physical form is good at helping you get into your character's personality, but not necessary.

Talon Arana: Thanks, but Morph and I were startled to hear him described as 'cute'. ;p Saichania is a Mongolian name meaning "beautiful one", so that worked out well. 8N's body was meant to be a temporary shell until he had developed a personality and could choose his own form, but I think he likes his current form just fine. Their thoughts always come from very specific places, (Morph's is about a foot to my left, while Saichania's is to my right. Aiden's thoughts come from directly in front of me.) It helps me to avoid confusion. ;p At first, Saichania was upset at me about her reality and my power to rearrange her thoughts at a whim and we fought whenever I tried talking to her, But we've made up now and have put that behind us. I agreed not to tamper with her thoughts or anything like that. Morph has always had a somewhat fatalistic "oh well" sort of mentality about being a figment of my mind. Aiden doesn't seem to care one bit. |) We all get along just fine now, but they all get annoyed when they think I've been scripting what they say. It's something I'm trying to work on, but it's easy to accidentally slip into. :( As of late, we've been working on creating a world that we can -hopefully- find one day in a dream. So far there's just one continent on an ocean planet, and the terrain on that one continent is pretty flat and level so far, apart from an area near the coast we've been working on. There's a flat-topped hill with a teleportation center on top. A winding path leads down the hill to our house, or "shelter" as Saichania keeps saying. there's not much of anything else yet, not even any plants or animals beside the generic green grass and some flowers we planted along the trail.


Haha-- very well put ^^
Wow, your characters are all rather amazing ^^ I like their feels... it's all rather unique ^^~
-ah- I can really relate, me and Talon argued for the longest time on that...now, we take more enjoyment on just being together and enjoying shared interests... ( such as some of the boys I often roleplay with!)
Your world is simple, but seems lovely... Sometime, simple is the best-- the way you describe it, that simple place with some nice comforting details is easily comprehended, and less is likely to be lost in memory-- besides that, in dreams perhaps the basics will be a nice change to practuce dream powers in... (or even details will add themselves in the dreams)

You seem to be having lovely progress! Congrats! XD
While I realise talking to strangers must be strange, but please pass this along to your characters for me--

8N (Aiden), I love the design of your shell, and I hope one day to have a nice chat with you-- You seem lovely!~ ^^
Saichania, you have beautiful wings in that picture, and I am guessing you have a rather involving past-- one day perhaps I can learn it?
And Morph-... Don't be so down about being of another plane of existance-- even if you aren't stable in our reality, we would not be in yours... Some would be envious that they could not be destroyed by normal means-- you will always exist, for thought doesn't really ever go away.

ANYWAYS~
You have obviously done quite the bit of reading on this thread! XD You answer rather nicely...

Great luck to you!
~Talon


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#2:  Author: Talon Arana PostPosted: Fri 22 Jun, 2007
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altheman9993 wrote:
I'm thinking of getting back into this, I kinda lost track with stress.
Does the character need to have a phsyical form?


Haha, as Mecha said-- no... no they don't. But your characters can never truly have a physical form, just a physical appearence. :3 Just having the personality and mind of the character is all you really need-- I think though, that the physical appearence tends to come naturally at some point-- making a look is not all that important unless you really are a visually orientated sort of person.

This should be a fun experience though-- stop whenever it becomes straining! Forcing anything in life may not always bring the best results...

~Talon

#3:  Author: Mecha PostPosted: Tue 26 Jun, 2007
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New art for Morph now!

see http://www.ld4all.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=25291

#4:  Author: Talon Arana PostPosted: Tue 26 Jun, 2007
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Mecha wrote:
New art for Morph now!

see http://www.ld4all.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=25291


Cool! ^^ You're very talented :D~

I really must get an updated group picture up! ^^~
XD I like him, he look nice...

#5:  Author: Mecha PostPosted: Wed 27 Jun, 2007
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It's been fun and involving these past few weeks letting my characters develop, but now we're going to try and become lucid. Morph and Saichania aren't too enthusiastic\optimistic about this, but Aiden seems very gung-ho at the moment. Unlike Morph or Saichania, this is what Aiden was created for. He has a special teleportation device installed on his torso that allows him to effortlessly 'jump' between the waking world and the world of dreams, without any change in his consciousness so he can alert me when I'm dreaming. At least that's how it works in theory. We haven't field tested it yet though. Tonight will be my first attempt at CALD.

#6:  Author: Talon Arana PostPosted: Wed 27 Jun, 2007
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Mecha wrote:
It's been fun and involving these past few weeks letting my characters develop, but now we're going to try and become lucid. Morph and Saichania aren't too enthusiastic\optimistic about this, but Aiden seems very gung-ho at the moment. Unlike Morph or Saichania, this is what Aiden was created for. He has a special teleportation device installed on his torso that allows him to effortlessly 'jump' between the waking world and the world of dreams, without any change in his consciousness so he can alert me when I'm dreaming. At least that's how it works in theory. We haven't field tested it yet though. Tonight will be my first attempt at CALD.


Great! We await results...
That's a very unique and intiguing way of doing things... ^^ Amazing.

Great luck to you!
~Talon

#7:  Author: Mecha PostPosted: Wed 27 Jun, 2007
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Well, last night's try didn't go so well. We were focused at first, but then both of us got distracted, and nothing happened that night. In hindsight, I can see several things we could have done better. I could've psyched myself up and really believed that it would work, instead of just approaching it with a "Testing, testing, here goes nothing" mentality. I should have planned thing out with Aiden more thoroughly, visualized things, etc. None of us are upset however, because if we hadn't been doing this, I wouldn't have tried as hard to remember what I had dreamt, and might not have remembered the absolutely stunning sunrise in Middle Earth, or heard the equally beautiful music accompanying it. So with every cloud there's a silver lining. wink

I'll try something different tonight.

#8:  Author: Talon Arana PostPosted: Fri 29 Jun, 2007
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Mecha wrote:
Well, last night's try didn't go so well. We were focused at first, but then both of us got distracted, and nothing happened that night. In hindsight, I can see several things we could have done better. I could've psyched myself up and really believed that it would work, instead of just approaching it with a "Testing, testing, here goes nothing" mentality. I should have planned thing out with Aiden more thoroughly, visualized things, etc. None of us are upset however, because if we hadn't been doing this, I wouldn't have tried as hard to remember what I had dreamt, and might not have remembered the absolutely stunning sunrise in Middle Earth, or heard the equally beautiful music accompanying it. So with every cloud there's a silver lining. ;-)

I'll try something different tonight.


Very cool ^^~ Good luck!
It's great you at least remembered the beautiful dream... XD Who knows? Maybe CALD can become a good dream recall system too XD

~Talon

#9:  Author: Ang PostPosted: Tue 17 Jul, 2007
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My God, Talon... you've started some sub-lucid cult right here on LD4All. eek2

Three pages... wow. Where have I been for that time?

Anyway, an update after approximately two months... Vice - (one of her many, more recent names...) - is not much further than what I've been able to progress my novel characters. I have not seen her in any other dreams post-debut... outside of HI, that is. That is the time I can most "feel" her presence...

Other than Vice, I have noticed my older characters beginning to "flesh out" more, as well as fresher faces emerging. Chalk it up to Vice? Well... she did promise to help many weeks ago, did she not?

Perhaps I'm not doing my part, though... I have been rather "negligent" after my Japanese final exam...

(And I have yet to draw her picture. I think I'll try an automatic drawing method, though... It did produce for me this pencil drawing which may or may not have some correlation with Vice.)

Rock LaRocque... He's an interesting character, himself. I shall post more about him in my next entry. I think of him as more developed than even Vice...

#10:  Author: Talon Arana PostPosted: Tue 17 Jul, 2007
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Angstyboy wrote:
My God, Talon... you've started some sub-lucid cult right here on LD4All. :eek:

Three pages... wow. Where have I been for that time?

Anyway, an update after approximately two months... Vice - (one of her many, more recent names...) - is not much further than what I've been able to progress my novel characters. I have not seen her in any other dreams post-debut... outside of HI, that is. That is the time I can most "feel" her presence...

Other than Vice, I have noticed my older characters beginning to "flesh out" more, as well as fresher faces emerging. Chalk it up to Vice? Well... she did promise to help many weeks ago, did she not?

Perhaps I'm not doing my part, though... I have been rather "negligent" after my Japanese final exam...

(And I have yet to draw her picture. I think I'll try an automatic drawing method, though... It did produce for me this pencil drawing which may or may not have some correlation with Vice.)

Rock LaRocque... He's an interesting character, himself. I shall post more about him in my next entry. I think of him as more developed than even Vice...


XD Haha, Lol, I wouldn't call it that... But thanks?

Rock sounds cool~ I'd love to hear more on him!
And though slightly disturbing-- the sketch is definitely interesting ^^~

Vice? That's a beautiful name XD I like her taste~
But hey! Good luck... I'm glad to hear that your novel-characters are coming along :3

Funny enough XD For all the pages made, CALD isn't used widely enough that it might have it's own acrynym XD~

Thanks for updating! I was almost becoming worried...~

Yours,
~Talon

#11:  Author: Huey PostPosted: Tue 17 Jul, 2007
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Yeah unsure I have characters, too :D

Does that mean I can join this club, or usergroup, or new age movement, or whatever eh How do I sign up?

I do have characters hmm

See, I have:

Moogle
Moogie
Moogler
(My Moogettes grin)
Milk Chan
Mr. Ponpoko
Caramel Commander

Is that enough eh

Well...I guess I should explain 'em, huh uhh

Let's see...the Moogettes are DCs, Milk Chan is half-DC and half-anime, Mr. Ponpoko and the Caramel Commander...they're my job-buddies yes

This could get extensive eh I need more time nuu

They all reside in Pandatown right now twirl


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#12:  Author: Talon Arana PostPosted: Tue 17 Jul, 2007
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Huey wrote:
Yeah :unsure: I have characters, too :D

Does that mean I can join this club, or usergroup, or new age movement, or reigion or whatever :????: How do I sign up?

I do have characters :|

See, I have:

Moogle
Moogie
Moogler
(My Moogettes :D))
Milk Chan
Mr. Ponpoko
Caramel Commander

Is that enough :????:

Well...I guess I should explain 'em, huh :uh:

Let's see...the Moogettes are DCs, Milk Chan is half-DC and half-anime, Mr. Ponpoko and the Caramel Commander...they're my job-buddies :yes:

This could get extensive :????: I need more time :nuu:

They all reside in Pandatown right now :twirl:


XD Haha~ So creative.. I love them! I've not seen such cute names yet in this thread...~
But hey! This is no-where near a religion, and as a Christian I would never want to create false idols! It's just a method on a thread~ ^^

When you get time, could you expand on this? I really enjoy your character's names, and they sound enjoyable to learn about~ ^^


Happily yours,
~'Tal', Talon...

P.S. Is my eccentricity good? I've been called that twice now on LD4ALL XD~

#13:  Author: Huey PostPosted: Tue 17 Jul, 2007
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Actually unsure I have an entire multiverse of characters to post you guys up on :D This should be great We can start in alphabetical order, guys first (c'mon now ladies...I save the best for last wink)

Really? Twice uhh By who else nervous

Cute lach1 You called my characters cute lachtraan

I think the word "cute" is cute, as well as people that use it cute...such is the "cute-isity" of cute-ishness cute is cute lach1

Cute-centric. That's how I'd describe you, Tal tumbsuplinkswitteduim And you can take that to the bank...and cash it in for free tokens to play at Chuck E. Cheese--where a kid can be a kid :D

...

Cute

#14:  Author: Talon Arana PostPosted: Tue 17 Jul, 2007
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Huey wrote:
Actually unsure I have an entire multiverse of characters to post you guys up on :D This should be great We can start in alphabetical order, guys first (c'mon now ladies...I save the best for last wink)

Really? Twice uhh By who else nervous

Cute lach1 You called my characters cute lachtraan

I think the word "cute" is cute, as well as people that use it cute...such is the "cute-isity" of cute-ishness cute is cute lach1

Cute-centric. That's how I'd describe you, Tal tumbsuplinkswitteduim And you can take that to the bank...and cash it in for free tokens to play at Chuck E. Cheese--where a kid can be a kid :D

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Cute


XD Haha, yay~ I'm cute-centric~ XD.
That's one of the nicest things anyone's ever said to me XD.
The other time I was called eccentric was on the compliment thread~ Compliment the one above you~
XD It as by Angstyboy-- But it was in the nicest way, :3
People on Ld4all are just so friendly~ I love you guys~ XD

You can always make me laugh-- thanks XD.
It sounds good~ ^^ If you have so many, why not organize them in your posts like,
A-D
E-G

Ect.ect.? That way, it won't be too confusing when people take a glance at the thread after awhile :3

I really look forward to it~ I don't think their cute-isity could be beat--^^~
They all sound interesting! With an imagination like yours, i wouldn't doubt it Huey~! ^^
tounge2 Are the girls really so much more capturing?

Looking forard to any information on the chars~
~Tal, Talon...

#15:  Author: Huey PostPosted: Tue 17 Jul, 2007
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People on LD4All ARE friendly, aren't they, Tal ^^ That's why I'm not dead yet

Eccentric in a nice way...hmmm...must be good with words, I guess smile

You should get more compliments, Tal--you're a really cool person and compliments brighten a day like white-chocolate-dipped sunshine tounge1

Well Tal...are your boys much more capturing wink

I'm just a typical guy-He-man-macho-dude...who likes puppies and peaches...but not together grin

G'night, Tal bye



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